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From: Ed Tomlinson <edt@aei.ca>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Poole <mdpoole@troilus.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Enable xy scrolling for Apple Magic Mouse
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:50:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201002150750.26142.edt@aei.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100215071850.GB9135@core.coreip.homeip.net>

On Monday 15 February 2010 02:18:50 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 06:58:26PM -0500, Ed Tomlinson wrote:
> > On Sunday 14 February 2010 17:51:15 Michael Poole wrote:
> > > Ed Tomlinson writes:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Here is a patch that enables xy scrolling with the magic mouse.  I have also
> > > > changed the accelleration logic to work better with xy scrolling.
> > > 
> > > Hi Ed,
> > > 
> > > Your other patch to call input_unregister_device() looks good -- thanks!
> > 
> > Thanks.  One question about it though.  Do we have to check if msc is null before
> > the unregister?
> 
> If it is NULL whan remove() is running there are much bigger problems
> with the driver/HID subsystem.
> 
> > 
> > > I've never used a horizontal scroll wheel -- what are the common uses
> > > for it?  Why should the acceleration be separate for the two directions
> > > rather than using the same factor?  Why does the kernel need to emulate
> > > this rather than having user-space implement the emulation?
> > 
> > Its usefull for scrolling left and right while browsing.  If you use kde it can
> > be used to scroll between applications on the taskbar.   Here most applications
> > with a horizontial scrollbar work as expected.
> > 
> > I first tried with a single acceleration value for both axies.  It leads to confusing
> > things happening.   For example.  I quickly scroll down, then nudge the
> > window to the left.  This works as expect with two values.  With one the
> > nudge is accelerated and moves too far.
> > 
> > My personal goal is to have the basic, apple defined, gestures working
> > from kernel space.  This way the device works as expected without needing
> > to fiddle with X or other managers (think wayland and/or chromeOS).
> 
> I am not sure if this is the desired approach. The current idea is to
> export useable but minimally processed events to userspace and let them
> be turned into gestures there (by evdev, synaptics driver and so forth).

I would go along with this if the code to add the emulation in kernel was large or complex.  
Its not.  About 30 more lines should add the pgup/pgdn code.  

Thanks
Ed

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ed Tomlinson <edt-Yad3+ZauZac@public.gmane.org>
To: Dmitry Torokhov
	<dmitry.torokhov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Michael Poole <mdpoole-IZmAEv5cUt1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-input-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-bluetooth-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Enable xy scrolling for Apple Magic Mouse
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:50:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201002150750.26142.edt@aei.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100215071850.GB9135-WlK9ik9hQGAhIp7JRqBPierSzoNAToWh@public.gmane.org>

On Monday 15 February 2010 02:18:50 Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 06:58:26PM -0500, Ed Tomlinson wrote:
> > On Sunday 14 February 2010 17:51:15 Michael Poole wrote:
> > > Ed Tomlinson writes:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Here is a patch that enables xy scrolling with the magic mouse.  I have also
> > > > changed the accelleration logic to work better with xy scrolling.
> > > 
> > > Hi Ed,
> > > 
> > > Your other patch to call input_unregister_device() looks good -- thanks!
> > 
> > Thanks.  One question about it though.  Do we have to check if msc is null before
> > the unregister?
> 
> If it is NULL whan remove() is running there are much bigger problems
> with the driver/HID subsystem.
> 
> > 
> > > I've never used a horizontal scroll wheel -- what are the common uses
> > > for it?  Why should the acceleration be separate for the two directions
> > > rather than using the same factor?  Why does the kernel need to emulate
> > > this rather than having user-space implement the emulation?
> > 
> > Its usefull for scrolling left and right while browsing.  If you use kde it can
> > be used to scroll between applications on the taskbar.   Here most applications
> > with a horizontial scrollbar work as expected.
> > 
> > I first tried with a single acceleration value for both axies.  It leads to confusing
> > things happening.   For example.  I quickly scroll down, then nudge the
> > window to the left.  This works as expect with two values.  With one the
> > nudge is accelerated and moves too far.
> > 
> > My personal goal is to have the basic, apple defined, gestures working
> > from kernel space.  This way the device works as expected without needing
> > to fiddle with X or other managers (think wayland and/or chromeOS).
> 
> I am not sure if this is the desired approach. The current idea is to
> export useable but minimally processed events to userspace and let them
> be turned into gestures there (by evdev, synaptics driver and so forth).

I would go along with this if the code to add the emulation in kernel was large or complex.  
Its not.  About 30 more lines should add the pgup/pgdn code.  

Thanks
Ed

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-15 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-29 14:20 [PATCH 0/3] HID: make raw output callback more flexible Jiri Kosina
2010-01-29 14:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] HID: make raw reports possible for both feature and output reports Jiri Kosina
2010-01-29 14:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] HID: Implement Wacom quirk in the kernel Jiri Kosina
2010-01-29 17:14   ` Ping Cheng
2010-02-03 14:50     ` Jiri Kosina
2010-01-29 14:21 ` [PATCH 3/3] HID: Enable Sixaxis controller over Bluetooth Jiri Kosina
2010-01-29 16:39 ` [PATCH 0/3] HID: make raw output callback more flexible Bastien Nocera
2010-01-30  0:46   ` Michael Poole
2010-01-30  0:46     ` Michael Poole
2010-01-30 14:11     ` Bastien Nocera
2010-01-31  3:27       ` Michael Poole
2010-01-31  3:27         ` Michael Poole
2010-02-03  1:25       ` Michael Poole
2010-02-03  1:25         ` Michael Poole
2010-02-03  9:47         ` Bastien Nocera
     [not found]           ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1002031202040.15395@pobox.suse.cz>
2010-02-03 12:48             ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-03 12:49               ` [PATCH 1/3] HID: make raw reports possible for both feature and output reports Jiri Kosina
2010-02-03 14:14                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-02-03 14:37                   ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-03 12:49               ` [PATCH 2/3] HID: Implement Wacom quirk in the kernel Jiri Kosina
2010-02-03 14:19                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-02-03 14:40                   ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-03 12:50               ` [PATCH 3/3] HID: Enable Sixaxis controller over Bluetooth Jiri Kosina
2010-02-03 14:17                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-02-03 14:42                   ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-04 12:26       ` [PATCH] Bluetooth: Keep a copy of each HID device's report descriptor Michael Poole
2010-02-04 14:23         ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-02-05 17:23           ` Michael Poole
2010-02-05 17:23             ` Michael Poole
2010-02-05 17:51             ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-02-09  2:06               ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-09  7:22                 ` Justin Mattock
2010-02-09  7:22                   ` Justin Mattock
2010-02-09 10:14                   ` Bastien Nocera
2010-02-09 10:14                     ` Bastien Nocera
2010-02-09 12:36                     ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-09 12:40                       ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-09 13:10                         ` [PATCH 0/2] Provide a driver for the Apple Magic Mouse Michael Poole
2010-02-09 13:10                           ` Michael Poole
2010-02-09 13:11                           ` [PATCH 1/2] " Michael Poole
2010-02-09 13:11                             ` Michael Poole
2010-02-09 13:11                             ` Michael Poole
2010-02-09 13:13                           ` [PATCH 2/2] Add a device " Michael Poole
2010-02-09 13:13                             ` Michael Poole
2010-02-10 13:06                             ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-10 13:06                               ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-10 13:58                               ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-10 13:58                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-10 18:20                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-02-10 20:31                               ` Michael Poole
2010-02-10 20:31                                 ` Michael Poole
2010-02-10 20:31                                 ` Michael Poole
2010-02-11  5:32                               ` [PATCH] hid-magicmouse: Coding style and probe failure fixes Michael Poole
2010-02-11  5:32                                 ` Michael Poole
2010-02-11  6:55                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-02-11  6:55                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-02-11 10:26                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-11 23:10                                   ` Michael Poole
2010-02-11  3:05                             ` [PATCH 2/2] Add a device driver for the Apple Magic Mouse Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-11  3:05                               ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-11  3:20                               ` Michael Poole
2010-02-11  3:20                                 ` Michael Poole
2010-02-11  3:20                                 ` Michael Poole
2010-02-11 12:51                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add a device driver for the Apple Magic Mouse (2.6.32.8) Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-09 21:37                           ` [PATCH 0/2] Provide a driver for the Apple Magic Mouse Justin P. Mattock
2010-02-09 21:37                             ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-02-10 13:57                           ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-10 13:57                             ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-13 19:29                             ` [PATCH 0/2] Provide a driver for the Apple Magic Mouse - opps Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-14  8:03                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-02-14 14:22                                 ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-14 14:22                                   ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-15  7:11                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-02-15 12:42                                     ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-15 12:42                                       ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-15 12:44                                     ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-16 12:57                                       ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-16 12:34                                     ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-16 12:55                                       ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-14 22:24                             ` [PATCH 1/1] Enable xy scrolling for Apple Magic Mouse Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-14 22:24                               ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-14 22:51                               ` Michael Poole
2010-02-14 22:51                                 ` Michael Poole
2010-02-14 23:58                                 ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-14 23:58                                   ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-15  7:18                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-02-15 12:50                                     ` Ed Tomlinson [this message]
2010-02-15 12:50                                       ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-15  0:18                                 ` Ed Tomlinson
2010-02-09 15:03                     ` [PATCH] Bluetooth: Keep a copy of each HID device's report descriptor Justin P. Mattock
2010-02-05 12:49         ` Bastien Nocera
2010-02-05 13:27           ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-01-30 14:13 ` [PATCH 0/3] HID: make raw output callback more flexible Marcel Holtmann

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