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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Safford <safford@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PULL REQUEST] : ima-appraisal patches
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:39:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120418183938.GH6589@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1334772473.2137.22.camel@falcor>

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 02:07:52PM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:

> >From the 'ima: defer calling __fput()' patch description:
> 
> ima_file_free(), which is called on __fput(), updates the file data
> hash stored as an extended attribute to reflect file changes.  If a
> file is closed before it is munmapped, __fput() is called with the
> mmap_sem taken.  With IMA-appraisal enabled, this results in an
> mmap_sem/i_mutex lockdep.  ima_defer_fput() increments the f_count to
> defer the __fput() being called until after the mmap_sem is released.
> 
> The number of __fput() calls needing to be deferred is minimal.  Only
> those files in policy, that were closed prior to the munmap and were
> mmapped write, need to defer the __fput().
> 
> With this patch, on a clean F16 install, from boot to login, only
> 5 out of ~100,000 mmap_sem held fput() calls were deferred.

Assuming that it's commit 3cee52ffe8ca925bb1e96f804daa87f7e2e34e46
Author: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:   Fri Feb 24 06:23:12 2012 -0500

    ima: defer calling __fput()
in your tree, the NAK still stands.  For starters, but you are creating a
different locking rules for IMA-enabled builds and for everything else.
Moreover, this deferral is done only for files opened for write; the
rules are convoluted as hell *and* inviting abuses.  

NAKed at least until you come up with formal proof that there's no other
lock where fput() would be possible and ->i_mutex was not allowed.  This
is not a way to go; that kind of kludges leads to locking code that is
impossible to reason about.

PS: BTW, what the hell is "fput already scheduled" codepath about?
Why is it pr_info() and not an outright BUG_ON()?

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-18 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-18 13:04 [PULL REQUEST] : ima-appraisal patches Mimi Zohar
2012-04-18 15:02 ` James Morris
2012-04-18 18:07   ` Mimi Zohar
2012-04-18 18:39     ` Al Viro [this message]
2012-04-18 20:56       ` Mimi Zohar
2012-04-19 19:57       ` Mimi Zohar
2012-04-20  0:43         ` [RFC] situation with fput() locking (was Re: [PULL REQUEST] : ima-appraisal patches) Al Viro
2012-04-20  2:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20  2:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20  2:54             ` Al Viro
2012-04-20  2:58               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20  2:58                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20  8:09                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 15:56                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 15:56                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 16:08                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 16:42                       ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 17:21                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 17:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 18:07                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-23 18:01                             ` [RFC] TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME, arch/*/*/*signal*.c and all such Al Viro
2012-04-23 18:37                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-24  7:26                               ` Al Viro
2012-04-25  3:06                                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 12:37                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 12:50                                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 13:03                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 13:32                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 13:32                                         ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 14:52                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 15:46                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 16:10                                               ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 17:02                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 17:51                                                   ` Al Viro
2012-04-26  7:15                                                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-04-26  7:25                                                       ` David Miller
2012-04-26 13:52                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-26 14:31                                                         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-04-26 13:22                                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-26 18:37                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-26 23:19                                   ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 17:24                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-27 17:54                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-02 10:37                                         ` Matt Fleming
2012-05-02 14:14                                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 18:45                                       ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 19:14                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-04-27 19:34                                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-29 22:51                                             ` Al Viro
2012-04-30  6:39                                               ` Greg Ungerer
2012-04-30  6:39                                                 ` Greg Ungerer
2012-04-27 19:42                                         ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 20:20                                         ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-27 21:12                                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 21:27                                             ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-27 23:15                                               ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 23:32                                                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-29  4:12                                                   ` Al Viro
2012-04-30  8:06                                                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-04-27 23:50                                                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-28 18:51                                                   ` [PATCH] arch/tile: avoid calling do_signal() after fork from a kernel thread Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28 18:51                                                     ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28 20:55                                                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-28 21:46                                                       ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28 21:46                                                         ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-29  0:55                                                         ` Al Viro
2012-04-28 18:51                                                           ` [PATCH v2] arch/tile: fix up some issues in calling do_work_pending() Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28 18:51                                                             ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-29  3:49                                                           ` [PATCH] arch/tile: avoid calling do_signal() after fork from a kernel thread Chris Metcalf
2012-04-29  3:49                                                             ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28  2:42                                                 ` [RFC] TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME, arch/*/*/*signal*.c and all such Al Viro
2012-04-28  3:32                                                   ` Al Viro
2012-04-28  3:36                                                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-29 16:33                                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 16:18                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 18:05                                                     ` Al Viro
2012-05-01  4:31                                                       ` Al Viro
2012-05-01  5:06                                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2012-05-01  5:52                                                           ` Al Viro
2012-05-02 17:24                                                             ` Al Viro
2012-05-02 18:30                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 16:41                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 18:09                                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-29 18:25                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20  3:15               ` [RFC] situation with fput() locking (was Re: [PULL REQUEST] : ima-appraisal patches) Al Viro
2012-04-20 18:54           ` Hugh Dickins
2012-04-20 19:04             ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 19:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 19:32                 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-04-20 19:58                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 21:12                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 21:12                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 22:13                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 22:35                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 22:35                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27  7:35                         ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-04-27 17:34                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 18:52                             ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-04-27 18:52                               ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-04-27 19:15                               ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-04-30 14:32                             ` Mimi Zohar
2012-04-30 14:32                               ` Mimi Zohar
2012-05-03  4:23                               ` James Morris
2012-05-03  4:23                                 ` James Morris
2012-04-20 19:37               ` Al Viro

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