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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Safford <safford@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@intel.com>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] situation with fput() locking (was Re: [PULL REQUEST] : ima-appraisal patches)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:35:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFzEwsW1kdLo2hpgW2PUCRkyaRxS_KB40iwmuk1FDgV+cg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120420221315.GN6871@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Kinda-sorta.  I agree that such helpers make sense, but you are too
> optimistic about the number of such places.  And clusterfuck around
> mremap() is fairly deep, so propagating all way back to up_write()
> wont' be fun.

Fair enough.

I'll do the helpers and see how much they get rid of, just because
looking at all the callers, those helpers seem to be obviously the
right thing anyway. So even if we don't do anything else, we can
improve things regardless.

For do_brk(), for example, it looks like do_brk() itself should
actually be entirely static to mm/mmap.c, because every single caller
from the outside actually wants the self-locking version.

So plan right now: do "vm_xyzzy()" helper functions that do
"do_xyzzy()" and take the lock (and do not take the "mm" argument,
because it had better always be the current one - keep the calling
convention as simple as possible).

                   Linus

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Safford <safford@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@intel.com>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] situation with fput() locking (was Re: [PULL REQUEST] : ima-appraisal patches)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:35:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFzEwsW1kdLo2hpgW2PUCRkyaRxS_KB40iwmuk1FDgV+cg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120420221315.GN6871@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Kinda-sorta.  I agree that such helpers make sense, but you are too
> optimistic about the number of such places.  And clusterfuck around
> mremap() is fairly deep, so propagating all way back to up_write()
> wont' be fun.

Fair enough.

I'll do the helpers and see how much they get rid of, just because
looking at all the callers, those helpers seem to be obviously the
right thing anyway. So even if we don't do anything else, we can
improve things regardless.

For do_brk(), for example, it looks like do_brk() itself should
actually be entirely static to mm/mmap.c, because every single caller
from the outside actually wants the self-locking version.

So plan right now: do "vm_xyzzy()" helper functions that do
"do_xyzzy()" and take the lock (and do not take the "mm" argument,
because it had better always be the current one - keep the calling
convention as simple as possible).

                   Linus
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-20 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-18 13:04 [PULL REQUEST] : ima-appraisal patches Mimi Zohar
2012-04-18 15:02 ` James Morris
2012-04-18 18:07   ` Mimi Zohar
2012-04-18 18:39     ` Al Viro
2012-04-18 20:56       ` Mimi Zohar
2012-04-19 19:57       ` Mimi Zohar
2012-04-20  0:43         ` [RFC] situation with fput() locking (was Re: [PULL REQUEST] : ima-appraisal patches) Al Viro
2012-04-20  2:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20  2:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20  2:54             ` Al Viro
2012-04-20  2:58               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20  2:58                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20  8:09                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 15:56                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 15:56                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 16:08                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 16:42                       ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 17:21                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 17:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 18:07                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-23 18:01                             ` [RFC] TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME, arch/*/*/*signal*.c and all such Al Viro
2012-04-23 18:37                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-24  7:26                               ` Al Viro
2012-04-25  3:06                                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 12:37                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 12:50                                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 13:03                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 13:32                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 13:32                                         ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 14:52                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 15:46                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 16:10                                               ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 17:02                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 17:51                                                   ` Al Viro
2012-04-26  7:15                                                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-04-26  7:25                                                       ` David Miller
2012-04-26 13:52                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-26 14:31                                                         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-04-26 13:22                                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-26 18:37                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-26 23:19                                   ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 17:24                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-27 17:54                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-02 10:37                                         ` Matt Fleming
2012-05-02 14:14                                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 18:45                                       ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 19:14                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-04-27 19:34                                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-29 22:51                                             ` Al Viro
2012-04-30  6:39                                               ` Greg Ungerer
2012-04-30  6:39                                                 ` Greg Ungerer
2012-04-27 19:42                                         ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 20:20                                         ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-27 21:12                                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 21:27                                             ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-27 23:15                                               ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 23:32                                                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-29  4:12                                                   ` Al Viro
2012-04-30  8:06                                                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-04-27 23:50                                                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-28 18:51                                                   ` [PATCH] arch/tile: avoid calling do_signal() after fork from a kernel thread Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28 18:51                                                     ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28 20:55                                                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-28 21:46                                                       ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28 21:46                                                         ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-29  0:55                                                         ` Al Viro
2012-04-28 18:51                                                           ` [PATCH v2] arch/tile: fix up some issues in calling do_work_pending() Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28 18:51                                                             ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-29  3:49                                                           ` [PATCH] arch/tile: avoid calling do_signal() after fork from a kernel thread Chris Metcalf
2012-04-29  3:49                                                             ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28  2:42                                                 ` [RFC] TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME, arch/*/*/*signal*.c and all such Al Viro
2012-04-28  3:32                                                   ` Al Viro
2012-04-28  3:36                                                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-29 16:33                                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 16:18                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 18:05                                                     ` Al Viro
2012-05-01  4:31                                                       ` Al Viro
2012-05-01  5:06                                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2012-05-01  5:52                                                           ` Al Viro
2012-05-02 17:24                                                             ` Al Viro
2012-05-02 18:30                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 16:41                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 18:09                                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-29 18:25                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20  3:15               ` [RFC] situation with fput() locking (was Re: [PULL REQUEST] : ima-appraisal patches) Al Viro
2012-04-20 18:54           ` Hugh Dickins
2012-04-20 19:04             ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 19:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 19:32                 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-04-20 19:58                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 21:12                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 21:12                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-20 22:13                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-20 22:35                       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2012-04-20 22:35                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27  7:35                         ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-04-27 17:34                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 18:52                             ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-04-27 18:52                               ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-04-27 19:15                               ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-04-30 14:32                             ` Mimi Zohar
2012-04-30 14:32                               ` Mimi Zohar
2012-05-03  4:23                               ` James Morris
2012-05-03  4:23                                 ` James Morris
2012-04-20 19:37               ` Al Viro

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