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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: u3557@miso.sublimeip.com
Cc: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>,
	Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PTRACE_SYSCALL && vsyscall (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 18:59:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121204175933.GA11537@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <841b7a319f9d22402d269eed23d03835.squirrel@mail.sublimeip.com>

On 12/03, u3557@miso.sublimeip.com wrote:
>
> > However. Of course it would be nice to avoid the new option. IMO it
> > would be better to do nothing ;) vsyscall is deprecated, and EMULATE
> > is x86-specific.
>
> The problem is that the current static glibc invokes the vsyscall page,

Yes I know.

Still I'd like to avoid to change the ptrace API, even if the change is
simple. This emulate_vsyscall() is too "exotic" imho.

> > You forgot again that EMULATE does not execute the code in the
> > vsyscall page.
>
> The beauty of using the x86 debug-registers, is that they do not
> trap the instruction, but rather the fact that the program-counter
> has a given value.

Yes, I understand, so DR_RW_EXECUTE should probably work. And I even
sent the patch (untested/uncompiled). But given that even the simple
bugfix which started this thread was ignored by maintainers, I am
not sure how we can convince them this change makes sense ;)

However. This looks like a hack to me, because this code is never
executed. But this is sudjective and I am not saying this can't work.
And yes, this doesn't add new ptrace hacks.



But If we want to allow to trace vsyscall's, hw bp doesn't look very
nice imo. HBP_NUM = 4 and you need to setup 3 bp's to trace them all.

And what about strace? It won't be easy to change it to use hwbp.


That is why I think PTRACE_SYSCALL should "simply work" somehow. And
so far I think that "just report syscall_exit with orig_ax = -1" is
the best (and simple) solution.

OK. We can do more. We can report both syscall_enter/exit and we can
change orig_ax/ax temporary to "fool" the tracer, so that everything
will look as a "normal" syscall. Like vsyscall_seccomp() does.

But this needs much more changes.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-04 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-09 18:29 [PATCH] arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-09 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-19 17:47   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-19 18:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-20 10:33       ` u3557
2012-11-20 15:48       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-20 15:55         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-20 18:32         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-20 23:16           ` u3557
2012-11-21 14:16             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-21 17:30               ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-22 16:12                 ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-22 20:57                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-11-23  0:20                     ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 17:45                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-24 12:47                         ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 17:42                     ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23  9:14                   ` arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 16:33                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23 17:05                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-24 14:14                         ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-24 13:45                       ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-25 22:55                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-25 23:48                           ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-12-02 19:30                             ` PTRACE_SYSCALL && vsyscall (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-02 23:54                               ` u3557
2012-12-04 17:59                                 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-12-04 22:44                                   ` u3557
2013-01-08 17:08                                   ` Pedro Alves
2013-01-09 17:52                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-10  6:54                                       ` u3557
2013-01-12 18:12                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-14  2:31                                           ` u3557
2013-01-14 16:01                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-18  1:39                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-18  5:44                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Randy Dunlap
2013-02-18 15:21                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 16:33                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-18 19:49                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Steven Rostedt
2013-02-19  6:25                                                       ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-20  8:39                                                         ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-20  9:38                                                           ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-20 10:51                                                             ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-20 11:16                                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  7:46                                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  8:00                                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-21  8:03                                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  8:09                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-21 22:18                                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Andrew Morton
2013-02-21 22:42                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-22  1:18                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-22 14:23                                                         ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Denys Vlasenko
2012-12-05  9:29                               ` PTRACE_SYSCALL && vsyscall (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-05 13:14                                 ` u3557
2012-11-26  9:44                   ` vdso && cr " Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-26 12:27                     ` Andrey Wagin
2012-11-26 12:55                       ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-26 14:18                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-26 14:26                           ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-26 14:41                             ` vdso && cr Cyrill Gorcunov

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