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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Lin Feng <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	bcrl@kvack.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, khlebnikov@openvz.org,
	walken@google.com, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	minchan@kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, rientjes@google.com,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, jiang.liu@huawei.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: hotplug: implement non-movable version of get_user_pages() called get_user_pages_non_movable()
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:34:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130219103458.GN4365@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51234C12.4020404@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 05:55:30PM +0800, Lin Feng wrote:
> Hi Mel,
> 
> On 02/18/2013 11:17 PM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >>> > > <SNIP>
> >>> > >
> >>> > > result. It's a little clumsy but the memory hot-remove failure message
> >>> > > could list what applications have pinned the pages that cannot be removed
> >>> > > so the administrator has the option of force-killing the application. It
> >>> > > is possible to discover what application is pinning a page from userspace
> >>> > > but it would involve an expensive search with /proc/kpagemap
> >>> > > 
> >>>>> > >>> +	if (migrate_pre_flag && !isolate_err) {
> >>>>> > >>> +		ret = migrate_pages(&pagelist, alloc_migrate_target, 1,
> >>>>> > >>> +					false, MIGRATE_SYNC, MR_SYSCALL);
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > The conversion of alloc_migrate_target is a bit problematic. It strips
> >>> > > the __GFP_MOVABLE flag and the consequence of this is that it converts
> >>> > > those allocation requests to MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE. This potentially is a large
> >>> > > number of pages, particularly if the number of get_user_pages_non_movable()
> >>> > > increases for short-lived pins like direct IO.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, I don't quite understand here neither. If we use the following new 
> >> > migration allocation function as you said, the increasing number of 
> >> > get_user_pages_non_movable() will also lead to large numbers of MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE
> >> > pages. What's the difference, do I miss something?
> >> > 
> > The replacement function preserves the __GFP_MOVABLE flag. It cannot use
> > ZONE_MOVABLE but otherwise the newly allocated page will be grouped with
> > other movable pages.
> 
> Ah, got it " But GFP_MOVABLE is not only a zone specifier but also an allocation policy.".
> 

Update the comment and describe the exception then.

> Could I clear __GFP_HIGHMEM flag in alloc_migrate_target depending on private parameter so
> that we can keep MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE policy also allocate page none movable zones with little
> change?
> 

It should work (double check gfp_zone) but then the allocation cannot
use the highmem zone. If you can be 100% certain that zone will not exist
be populated then it will work as expected but it's a hack and should be
commented clearly. You could do a BUILD_BUG_ON if CONFIG_HIGHMEM is set
to enforce it.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Lin Feng <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	bcrl@kvack.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, khlebnikov@openvz.org,
	walken@google.com, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	minchan@kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, rientjes@google.com,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, jiang.liu@huawei.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: hotplug: implement non-movable version of get_user_pages() called get_user_pages_non_movable()
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:34:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130219103458.GN4365@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51234C12.4020404@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 05:55:30PM +0800, Lin Feng wrote:
> Hi Mel,
> 
> On 02/18/2013 11:17 PM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >>> > > <SNIP>
> >>> > >
> >>> > > result. It's a little clumsy but the memory hot-remove failure message
> >>> > > could list what applications have pinned the pages that cannot be removed
> >>> > > so the administrator has the option of force-killing the application. It
> >>> > > is possible to discover what application is pinning a page from userspace
> >>> > > but it would involve an expensive search with /proc/kpagemap
> >>> > > 
> >>>>> > >>> +	if (migrate_pre_flag && !isolate_err) {
> >>>>> > >>> +		ret = migrate_pages(&pagelist, alloc_migrate_target, 1,
> >>>>> > >>> +					false, MIGRATE_SYNC, MR_SYSCALL);
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > The conversion of alloc_migrate_target is a bit problematic. It strips
> >>> > > the __GFP_MOVABLE flag and the consequence of this is that it converts
> >>> > > those allocation requests to MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE. This potentially is a large
> >>> > > number of pages, particularly if the number of get_user_pages_non_movable()
> >>> > > increases for short-lived pins like direct IO.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, I don't quite understand here neither. If we use the following new 
> >> > migration allocation function as you said, the increasing number of 
> >> > get_user_pages_non_movable() will also lead to large numbers of MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE
> >> > pages. What's the difference, do I miss something?
> >> > 
> > The replacement function preserves the __GFP_MOVABLE flag. It cannot use
> > ZONE_MOVABLE but otherwise the newly allocated page will be grouped with
> > other movable pages.
> 
> Ah, got it " But GFP_MOVABLE is not only a zone specifier but also an allocation policy.".
> 

Update the comment and describe the exception then.

> Could I clear __GFP_HIGHMEM flag in alloc_migrate_target depending on private parameter so
> that we can keep MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE policy also allocate page none movable zones with little
> change?
> 

It should work (double check gfp_zone) but then the allocation cannot
use the highmem zone. If you can be 100% certain that zone will not exist
be populated then it will work as expected but it's a hack and should be
commented clearly. You could do a BUILD_BUG_ON if CONFIG_HIGHMEM is set
to enforce it.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Lin Feng <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	bcrl@kvack.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, khlebnikov@openvz.org,
	walken@google.com, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	minchan@kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, rientjes@google.com,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, jiang.liu@huawei.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: hotplug: implement non-movable version of get_user_pages() called get_user_pages_non_movable()
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:34:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130219103458.GN4365@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51234C12.4020404@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 05:55:30PM +0800, Lin Feng wrote:
> Hi Mel,
> 
> On 02/18/2013 11:17 PM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >>> > > <SNIP>
> >>> > >
> >>> > > result. It's a little clumsy but the memory hot-remove failure message
> >>> > > could list what applications have pinned the pages that cannot be removed
> >>> > > so the administrator has the option of force-killing the application. It
> >>> > > is possible to discover what application is pinning a page from userspace
> >>> > > but it would involve an expensive search with /proc/kpagemap
> >>> > > 
> >>>>> > >>> +	if (migrate_pre_flag && !isolate_err) {
> >>>>> > >>> +		ret = migrate_pages(&pagelist, alloc_migrate_target, 1,
> >>>>> > >>> +					false, MIGRATE_SYNC, MR_SYSCALL);
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > The conversion of alloc_migrate_target is a bit problematic. It strips
> >>> > > the __GFP_MOVABLE flag and the consequence of this is that it converts
> >>> > > those allocation requests to MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE. This potentially is a large
> >>> > > number of pages, particularly if the number of get_user_pages_non_movable()
> >>> > > increases for short-lived pins like direct IO.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, I don't quite understand here neither. If we use the following new 
> >> > migration allocation function as you said, the increasing number of 
> >> > get_user_pages_non_movable() will also lead to large numbers of MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE
> >> > pages. What's the difference, do I miss something?
> >> > 
> > The replacement function preserves the __GFP_MOVABLE flag. It cannot use
> > ZONE_MOVABLE but otherwise the newly allocated page will be grouped with
> > other movable pages.
> 
> Ah, got it " But GFP_MOVABLE is not only a zone specifier but also an allocation policy.".
> 

Update the comment and describe the exception then.

> Could I clear __GFP_HIGHMEM flag in alloc_migrate_target depending on private parameter so
> that we can keep MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE policy also allocate page none movable zones with little
> change?
> 

It should work (double check gfp_zone) but then the allocation cannot
use the highmem zone. If you can be 100% certain that zone will not exist
be populated then it will work as expected but it's a hack and should be
commented clearly. You could do a BUILD_BUG_ON if CONFIG_HIGHMEM is set
to enforce it.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-19 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-04 10:04 [PATCH 0/2] mm: hotplug: implement non-movable version of get_user_pages() to kill long-time pin pages Lin Feng
2013-02-04 10:04 ` Lin Feng
2013-02-04 10:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: hotplug: implement non-movable version of get_user_pages() called get_user_pages_non_movable() Lin Feng
2013-02-04 10:04   ` Lin Feng
2013-02-04 10:04   ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  0:06   ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-05  0:06     ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-05  0:06     ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-05  0:18     ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-05  0:18       ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-05  3:09     ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  3:09       ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  3:09       ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05 21:13       ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-05 21:13         ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-05 21:13         ` Andrew Morton
2013-02-05 11:57     ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-05 11:57       ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-05 11:57       ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-05 13:32       ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-05 13:32         ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-05 13:32         ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-19 13:37         ` Lin Feng
2013-02-19 13:37           ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20  2:34           ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20  2:34             ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20  2:34             ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20  2:44             ` Wanpeng Li
2013-02-20  2:44             ` Wanpeng Li
2013-02-20  2:44             ` Wanpeng Li
2013-02-20  2:59               ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20  2:59                 ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20  9:58         ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-20  9:58           ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-20 10:23           ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20 10:23             ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20 10:23             ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20 11:31             ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-20 11:31               ` Simon Jeons
2013-02-20 11:54               ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20 11:54                 ` Lin Feng
2013-02-20 11:54                 ` Lin Feng
2013-02-06  2:26       ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-02-06  2:26         ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-02-06  2:26         ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-02-06 10:41         ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-06 10:41           ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-18 10:34       ` Lin Feng
2013-02-18 10:34         ` Lin Feng
2013-02-18 10:34         ` Lin Feng
2013-02-18 15:17         ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-18 15:17           ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-18 15:17           ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-19  9:55           ` Lin Feng
2013-02-19  9:55             ` Lin Feng
2013-02-19 10:34             ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2013-02-19 10:34               ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-19 10:34               ` Mel Gorman
2013-02-04 10:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs/aio.c: use get_user_pages_non_movable() to pin ring pages when support memory hotremove Lin Feng
2013-02-04 10:04   ` Lin Feng
2013-02-04 10:04   ` Lin Feng
2013-02-04 15:18   ` Jeff Moyer
2013-02-04 15:18     ` Jeff Moyer
2013-02-04 15:18     ` Jeff Moyer
2013-02-04 23:02     ` Zach Brown
2013-02-04 23:02       ` Zach Brown
2013-02-04 23:02       ` Zach Brown
2013-02-05  5:35       ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  5:35         ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  5:35         ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  5:06     ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  5:06       ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  0:58 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: hotplug: implement non-movable version of get_user_pages() to kill long-time pin pages Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  0:58   ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  0:58   ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  4:42   ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  4:42     ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  5:25     ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  5:25       ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  5:25       ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  6:18       ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  6:18         ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  7:45         ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  7:45           ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  7:45           ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  8:27           ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  8:27             ` Lin Feng
2013-02-05  8:27             ` Lin Feng

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