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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Roland Dreier <roland-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"Michael R. Hines"
	<mrhines-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Hal Rosenstock
	<hal.rosenstock-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	qemu-devel-qX2TKyscuCcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rdma: don't make pages writeable if not requiested
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:42:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130321174237.GA4060@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130321172150.GA3118-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:21:50AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 07:15:25PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> 
> > No because application does this:
> > init page
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > after a lot of time
> > 
> > ..
> > 
> > register
> > send
> > unregister
> > 
> > so it can not be read only.
> 
> mprotect(READONLY)
> register
> send
> unregister
> mprotect(WRITABLE)
> 
> ?
> With something like GIFT the app already has to give up writing to the
> pages while they are moving, so changing the protection seems in line
> with that?
> 
> Jason

It doesn't actually, and our app would sometimes write to these pages.
It simply does not care which version does the remote get in this case
since we track writes and resend later.

Also this is per-page, MRs have byte granularity so easier to use.

-- 
MST
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
	"Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@mellanox.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rdma: don't make pages writeable if not requiested
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:42:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130321174237.GA4060@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130321172150.GA3118@obsidianresearch.com>

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:21:50AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 07:15:25PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> 
> > No because application does this:
> > init page
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > after a lot of time
> > 
> > ..
> > 
> > register
> > send
> > unregister
> > 
> > so it can not be read only.
> 
> mprotect(READONLY)
> register
> send
> unregister
> mprotect(WRITABLE)
> 
> ?
> With something like GIFT the app already has to give up writing to the
> pages while they are moving, so changing the protection seems in line
> with that?
> 
> Jason

It doesn't actually, and our app would sometimes write to these pages.
It simply does not care which version does the remote get in this case
since we track writes and resend later.

Also this is per-page, MRs have byte granularity so easier to use.

-- 
MST

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@mellanox.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] rdma: don't make pages writeable if not requiested
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:42:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130321174237.GA4060@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130321172150.GA3118@obsidianresearch.com>

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:21:50AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 07:15:25PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> 
> > No because application does this:
> > init page
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > after a lot of time
> > 
> > ..
> > 
> > register
> > send
> > unregister
> > 
> > so it can not be read only.
> 
> mprotect(READONLY)
> register
> send
> unregister
> mprotect(WRITABLE)
> 
> ?
> With something like GIFT the app already has to give up writing to the
> pages while they are moving, so changing the protection seems in line
> with that?
> 
> Jason

It doesn't actually, and our app would sometimes write to these pages.
It simply does not care which version does the remote get in this case
since we track writes and resend later.

Also this is per-page, MRs have byte granularity so easier to use.

-- 
MST

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-21 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-21  6:18 [PATCH] rdma: don't make pages writeable if not requiested Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  6:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  6:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found] ` <20130321061838.GA28319-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21  6:55   ` Roland Dreier
2013-03-21  6:55     ` [Qemu-devel] " Roland Dreier
2013-03-21  6:55     ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]     ` <CAL1RGDUcMj9QVsuQgK+ozw64L6-cGehL7YBUJ1_ckni6TD=Kcg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21  7:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  7:03         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  7:03         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <20130321070357.GD28328-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21  7:15           ` Roland Dreier
2013-03-21  7:15             ` [Qemu-devel] " Roland Dreier
2013-03-21  7:15             ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]             ` <CAG4TOxPkhOhGmzeA1K4a0Zw8HxS-QkOr-PCx7mJgA+KkuH3ZiQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21  8:51               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  8:51                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  8:51                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                 ` <20130321085107.GE28328-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21  9:13                   ` Roland Dreier
2013-03-21  9:13                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Roland Dreier
2013-03-21  9:13                     ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                     ` <CAL1RGDVnkLZU2Vge4o3BwDxnAfGv7TQRMqE6ha3MUt39CVp5NQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21  9:39                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  9:39                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  9:39                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                         ` <20130321093946.GG28328-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 17:11                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 17:11                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 17:11                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20130321171115.GA653-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 17:15                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:15                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:15                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                 ` <20130321171525.GE2994-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 17:21                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 17:21                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 17:21                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20130321172150.GA3118-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 17:42                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-03-21 17:42                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 17:42                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                         ` <20130321174237.GA4060-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 17:57                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 17:57                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 17:57                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20130321175732.GA3263-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 18:03                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 18:03                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 18:03                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 18:16                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 18:16                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 18:16                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                 ` <20130321181633.GC4366-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 18:41                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 18:41                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 18:41                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20130321184135.GA8044-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 19:15                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 19:15                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 19:15                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                         ` <20130321191541.GB5272-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 20:09                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 20:09                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21 20:09                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-21  9:32       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  9:32         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21  9:32         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <20130321093230.GF28328-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 11:30           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 11:30             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 11:30             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 12:23   ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-21 12:23     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael R. Hines
2013-03-21 12:23     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-21 12:32     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 12:32       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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