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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Chen Gang <gang.chen@asianux.com>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: kernel: need extern variable 'screen_info' for related driver using.
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:03:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130521090336.GC10453@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <519B278B.6030708@asianux.com>

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 08:51:39AM +0100, Chen Gang wrote:
> On 05/21/2013 02:57 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Chen Gang <gang.chen@asianux.com> wrote:
> >>> >> I think it would be better if we added a something like
> >>> >> CONFIG_HAVE_VGA_CONSOLE, which VGA_CONSOLE can then depend on. Architectures
> >>> >> like x86 can then select the former, and we can remove the long list of
> >>> >> architectures from the current option.
> >> >
> >> > I guess your meaning is:
> >> >
> >> >   under arm64, actually, need not support 'VGA_CONSOLE', and 'screen_info' is useless.
> >> >   So better to define 'CONFIG_HAVE_VGA_CONSOLE' which 'VGA_CONSOLE' can depend on it, and in arm64, we do not define CONFIG_HAVE_VGA_CONSOLE.
> >> >
> >> > Is it correct ?
> > No, you missed "and we can remove the long list of architectures from the
> > current option".
> > 
> 
> OK, thanks.
> 
> Is it correct: "it is unnecessary to add 'screen_info' to the code, for
> arm64 will never support 'VGA_CONSOLE'" ?

We can add the screen_info if and when we need to support a VGA console. In
the meantime, let's not add things on a whim.

> >> > If so, I recommend to add depend item for VGA_CONSOLE directly:
> > I strongly support CONFIG_HAVE_VGA_CONSOLE.
> 
> For me, I still recommend add 'ARM64' in the long list of architectures
> for 'VGA_CONSOLE', I have 3 reasons, please check:
> 
> a. current implementation only changes one area which only related with
> arm64 and 'VGA_CONSOLE', but if use 'CONFIG_HAVE_VGA_CONSOLE', that will
> touch many multiple platforms dependency, at least we need discuss about
> it with multiple platforms guys for it, firstly.

That's a weak argument. You might as well propose the cleanup and see what
people say.

> b. We can find some cases to use CONFIG_HAVE_* as dpend on, but I can
> not find any cases which let CONFIG_'samename' depend on
> CONFIG_HAVE_'samename'.

Erm. PERF_EVENTS, BPF_JIT, IDE, ...?

> c. The original way still has effect, although it seems not quit
> beautiful, but it is correct and still clear for readers, it is still
> sustainable.

Sure, it works, but we're just contributing to the mess that's been built up
ever time another architecture has done the same thing. It's not hard to try
and clean it up.

Will

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From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] arm64: kernel: need extern variable 'screen_info' for related driver using.
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:03:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130521090336.GC10453@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <519B278B.6030708@asianux.com>

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 08:51:39AM +0100, Chen Gang wrote:
> On 05/21/2013 02:57 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Chen Gang <gang.chen@asianux.com> wrote:
> >>> >> I think it would be better if we added a something like
> >>> >> CONFIG_HAVE_VGA_CONSOLE, which VGA_CONSOLE can then depend on. Architectures
> >>> >> like x86 can then select the former, and we can remove the long list of
> >>> >> architectures from the current option.
> >> >
> >> > I guess your meaning is:
> >> >
> >> >   under arm64, actually, need not support 'VGA_CONSOLE', and 'screen_info' is useless.
> >> >   So better to define 'CONFIG_HAVE_VGA_CONSOLE' which 'VGA_CONSOLE' can depend on it, and in arm64, we do not define CONFIG_HAVE_VGA_CONSOLE.
> >> >
> >> > Is it correct ?
> > No, you missed "and we can remove the long list of architectures from the
> > current option".
> > 
> 
> OK, thanks.
> 
> Is it correct: "it is unnecessary to add 'screen_info' to the code, for
> arm64 will never support 'VGA_CONSOLE'" ?

We can add the screen_info if and when we need to support a VGA console. In
the meantime, let's not add things on a whim.

> >> > If so, I recommend to add depend item for VGA_CONSOLE directly:
> > I strongly support CONFIG_HAVE_VGA_CONSOLE.
> 
> For me, I still recommend add 'ARM64' in the long list of architectures
> for 'VGA_CONSOLE', I have 3 reasons, please check:
> 
> a. current implementation only changes one area which only related with
> arm64 and 'VGA_CONSOLE', but if use 'CONFIG_HAVE_VGA_CONSOLE', that will
> touch many multiple platforms dependency, at least we need discuss about
> it with multiple platforms guys for it, firstly.

That's a weak argument. You might as well propose the cleanup and see what
people say.

> b. We can find some cases to use CONFIG_HAVE_* as dpend on, but I can
> not find any cases which let CONFIG_'samename' depend on
> CONFIG_HAVE_'samename'.

Erm. PERF_EVENTS, BPF_JIT, IDE, ...?

> c. The original way still has effect, although it seems not quit
> beautiful, but it is correct and still clear for readers, it is still
> sustainable.

Sure, it works, but we're just contributing to the mess that's been built up
ever time another architecture has done the same thing. It's not hard to try
and clean it up.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-21  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-20  5:42 [PATCH] arm64: kernel: need extern variable 'screen_info' for related driver using Chen Gang
2013-05-20  5:42 ` Chen Gang
2013-05-20  9:10 ` Will Deacon
2013-05-20  9:10   ` Will Deacon
2013-05-21  3:15   ` Chen Gang
2013-05-21  3:15     ` Chen Gang
2013-05-21  6:57     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-05-21  6:57       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-05-21  7:51       ` Chen Gang
2013-05-21  7:51         ` Chen Gang
2013-05-21  9:03         ` Will Deacon [this message]
2013-05-21  9:03           ` Will Deacon
2013-05-21 10:13           ` Chen Gang
2013-05-21 10:13             ` Chen Gang
2013-05-21 13:15             ` Catalin Marinas
2013-05-21 13:15               ` Catalin Marinas
2013-05-22  0:50               ` Chen Gang
2013-05-22  0:50                 ` Chen Gang
2013-05-21 11:07         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-05-21 11:07           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-05-21 11:40           ` Chen Gang
2013-05-21 11:40             ` Chen Gang

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