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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8] net: consolidate memcg socket buffer tracking and accounting
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 15:09:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151022190943.GA20871@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151022184612.GN18351@esperanza>

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 09:46:12PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:21:31AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > The tcp memory controller has extensive provisions for future memory
> > accounting interfaces that won't materialize after all. Cut the code
> > base down to what's actually used, now and in the likely future.
> > 
> > - There won't be any different protocol counters in the future, so a
> >   direct sock->sk_memcg linkage is enough. This eliminates a lot of
> >   callback maze and boilerplate code, and restores most of the socket
> >   allocation code to pre-tcp_memcontrol state.
> > 
> > - There won't be a tcp control soft limit, so integrating the memcg
> 
> In fact, the code is ready for the "soft" limit (I mean min, pressure,
> max tuple), it just lacks a knob.

Yeah, but that's not going to materialize if the entire interface for
dedicated tcp throttling is considered obsolete.

> > @@ -1136,9 +1090,6 @@ static inline bool sk_under_memory_pressure(const struct sock *sk)
> >  	if (!sk->sk_prot->memory_pressure)
> >  		return false;
> >  
> > -	if (mem_cgroup_sockets_enabled && sk->sk_cgrp)
> > -		return !!sk->sk_cgrp->memory_pressure;
> > -
> 
> AFAIU, now we won't shrink the window on hitting the limit, i.e. this
> patch subtly changes the behavior of the existing knobs, potentially
> breaking them.

Hm, but there is no grace period in which something meaningful could
happen with the window shrinking, is there? Any buffer allocation is
still going to fail hard.

I don't see how this would change anything in practice.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8] net: consolidate memcg socket buffer tracking and accounting
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 15:09:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151022190943.GA20871@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151022184612.GN18351@esperanza>

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 09:46:12PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:21:31AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > The tcp memory controller has extensive provisions for future memory
> > accounting interfaces that won't materialize after all. Cut the code
> > base down to what's actually used, now and in the likely future.
> > 
> > - There won't be any different protocol counters in the future, so a
> >   direct sock->sk_memcg linkage is enough. This eliminates a lot of
> >   callback maze and boilerplate code, and restores most of the socket
> >   allocation code to pre-tcp_memcontrol state.
> > 
> > - There won't be a tcp control soft limit, so integrating the memcg
> 
> In fact, the code is ready for the "soft" limit (I mean min, pressure,
> max tuple), it just lacks a knob.

Yeah, but that's not going to materialize if the entire interface for
dedicated tcp throttling is considered obsolete.

> > @@ -1136,9 +1090,6 @@ static inline bool sk_under_memory_pressure(const struct sock *sk)
> >  	if (!sk->sk_prot->memory_pressure)
> >  		return false;
> >  
> > -	if (mem_cgroup_sockets_enabled && sk->sk_cgrp)
> > -		return !!sk->sk_cgrp->memory_pressure;
> > -
> 
> AFAIU, now we won't shrink the window on hitting the limit, i.e. this
> patch subtly changes the behavior of the existing knobs, potentially
> breaking them.

Hm, but there is no grace period in which something meaningful could
happen with the window shrinking, is there? Any buffer allocation is
still going to fail hard.

I don't see how this would change anything in practice.

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Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-22  4:21 [PATCH 0/8] mm: memcontrol: account socket memory in unified hierarchy Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22  4:21 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22  4:21 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm: page_counter: let page_counter_try_charge() return bool Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22  4:21   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-23 11:31   ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 11:31     ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22  4:21 ` [PATCH 2/8] mm: memcontrol: export root_mem_cgroup Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22  4:21   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-23 11:32   ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 11:32     ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22  4:21 ` [PATCH 3/8] net: consolidate memcg socket buffer tracking and accounting Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22  4:21   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22 18:46   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:46     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:46     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 19:09     ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2015-10-22 19:09       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-23 13:42       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-23 13:42         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-23 13:42         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-23 12:38   ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 12:38     ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22  4:21 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm: memcontrol: prepare for unified hierarchy socket accounting Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22  4:21   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-23 12:39   ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 12:39     ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22  4:21 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm: memcontrol: account socket memory on unified hierarchy Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22  4:21   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22 18:47   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:47     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:47     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-23 13:19   ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 13:19     ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 13:19     ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 13:59     ` David Miller
2015-10-23 13:59       ` David Miller
2015-10-23 13:59       ` David Miller
2015-10-26 16:56       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-26 16:56         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-27 12:26         ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-27 12:26           ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-27 13:49           ` David Miller
2015-10-27 13:49             ` David Miller
2015-10-27 13:49             ` David Miller
2015-10-27 15:41           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-27 15:41             ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-27 15:41             ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-27 16:15             ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-27 16:15               ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-27 16:42               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-27 16:42                 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-28  0:45                 ` David Miller
2015-10-28  0:45                   ` David Miller
2015-10-28  0:45                   ` David Miller
2015-10-28  3:05                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-28  3:05                     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-29 15:25                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-29 15:25                   ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-29 16:10                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-29 16:10                     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-29 16:10                     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-04 10:42                     ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-04 10:42                       ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-04 19:50                       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-04 19:50                         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-04 19:50                         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-05 14:40                         ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-05 14:40                           ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-05 16:16                           ` David Miller
2015-11-05 16:16                             ` David Miller
2015-11-05 16:28                             ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-05 16:28                               ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-05 16:28                               ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-05 16:30                               ` David Miller
2015-11-05 16:30                                 ` David Miller
2015-11-05 22:32                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-05 22:32                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-05 22:32                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-06 12:51                                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-06 12:51                                   ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-05 20:55                           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-05 20:55                             ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-05 22:52                             ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-05 22:52                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-05 22:52                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-06 10:57                               ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-06 10:57                                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-06 16:19                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-06 16:19                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-06 16:46                                   ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-06 16:46                                     ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-06 16:46                                     ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-06 17:45                                     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-06 17:45                                       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-06 17:45                                       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-07  3:45                                     ` David Miller
2015-11-07  3:45                                       ` David Miller
2015-11-12 18:36                                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-11-12 18:36                                     ` Mel Gorman
2015-11-12 18:36                                     ` Mel Gorman
2015-11-12 19:12                                     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-12 19:12                                       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-06  9:05                             ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-06  9:05                               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-06  9:05                               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-06  9:05                               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-06 13:29                               ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-06 13:29                                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-06 16:35                               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-06 16:35                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-06 13:21                             ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-06 13:21                               ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22  4:21 ` [PATCH 6/8] mm: vmscan: simplify memcg vs. global shrinker invocation Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22  4:21   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-23 13:26   ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 13:26     ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22  4:21 ` [PATCH 7/8] mm: vmscan: report vmpressure at the level of reclaim activity Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22  4:21   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22 18:48   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:48     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:48     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:48     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-23 13:49   ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 13:49     ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 13:49     ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22  4:21 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm: memcontrol: hook up vmpressure to socket pressure Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22  4:21   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-22 18:57   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:57     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:57     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:45 ` [PATCH 0/8] mm: memcontrol: account socket memory in unified hierarchy Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:45   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-22 18:45   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-26 17:22   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-26 17:22     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-26 17:22     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-26 17:22     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-27  8:43     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-27  8:43       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-27  8:43       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-27 16:01       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-27 16:01         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-28  8:20         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-28  8:20           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-28  8:20           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-28 18:58           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-28 18:58             ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-29  9:27             ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-29  9:27               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-29  9:27               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-10-29 17:52               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-29 17:52                 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-10-29 17:52                 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-02 14:47                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-02 14:47                   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-02 14:47                   ` Vladimir Davydov

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