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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:17:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160202111723.GD12574@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160201214730.GR20456@dastard>

On Tue 02-02-16 08:47:30, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 03:51:47PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Sat 30-01-16 00:28:33, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:28:15AM -0700, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> > > > I guess I need to go off and understand if we can have DAX mappings on such a
> > > > device.  If we can, we may have a problem - we can get the block_device from
> > > > get_block() in I/O path and the various fault paths, but we don't have access
> > > > to get_block() when flushing via dax_writeback_mapping_range().  We avoid
> > > > needing it the normal case by storing the sector results from get_block() in
> > > > the radix tree.
> > > 
> > > I think we're doing it wrong by storing the sector in the radix tree; we'd
> > > really need to store both the sector and the bdev which is too much data.
> > > 
> > > If we store the PFN of the underlying page instead, we don't have this
> > > problem.  Instead, we have a different problem; of the device going
> > > away under us.  I'm trying to find the code which tears down PTEs when
> > > the device goes away, and I'm not seeing it.  What do we do about user
> > > mappings of the device?
> > 
> > So I don't have a strong opinion whether storing PFN or sector is better.
> > Maybe PFN is somewhat more generic but OTOH turning DAX off for special
> > cases like inodes on XFS RT devices would be IMHO fine.
> 
> We need to support alternate devices.
> 
> There is a strong case for using the XFS RT device with DAX,
> especially for applications that know they are going to always use
> large/huge/giant pages to access their data files. The XFS RT device
> can guarantee allocation is always aligned to large/huge/giant page
> constraints right up to ENOSPC and throughout the production life of
> the filesystem. We have no other filesystem capable of providing
> such guarantees, which means the XFS RT device is uniquely suited to
> certain aplications with DAX...

I see, thanks for explanation. So I'm OK with changing what is stored in
the radix tree to accommodate this use case but my reservation that we IHMO
have other more pressing things to fix remains...

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-02 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-28 19:35 [PATCH 1/2] block: fix pfn_mkwrite() DAX fault handler Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 20:21   ` Dan Williams
2016-01-28 20:21     ` Dan Williams
2016-01-28 21:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-01-29 18:28     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-29 23:34       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-30  0:18         ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 22:44         ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-30  5:28       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-30  6:01         ` Dan Williams
2016-01-30  7:08           ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-31  2:32           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31  6:12             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-31 10:55               ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 16:38                 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:07                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:18                     ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:27                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:50                         ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 19:51                     ` Dan Williams
2016-02-01 13:44             ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 14:51         ` Jan Kara
2016-02-01 20:49           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 21:47           ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02  6:06             ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02  6:46               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02  8:05                 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 16:51                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 21:46                     ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-03  0:34                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03  1:21                         ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 11:17             ` Jan Kara [this message]
2016-02-02 16:33               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 16:46                 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-02 17:10                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 17:34                     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 17:46                       ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 17:47                         ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 18:24                           ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:46                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-02 18:59                           ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 20:14                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03 11:09                           ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 10:46                       ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 20:13                         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04  9:15                           ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 23:38                             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-06 23:15                             ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07  5:27                               ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 19:56                         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 20:29                           ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 22:19                             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-05 22:25                             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-06 23:40                               ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07  6:43                                 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-08 13:48                                   ` Jan Kara
2016-02-07  8:38                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08 15:55                                 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:41               ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:53                 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02  0:02     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02  7:10       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02 10:34       ` Jan Kara

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