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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, jack@suse.com, pmladek@suse.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 10:42:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160307154227.GA7065@htj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160307082230.GB5201@quack.suse.cz>

Hello,

On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 09:22:30AM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > I don't know what MAYDAY is. I'm talking about a situation where printing_work
> > > work item is not processed (i.e. printing_work_func() is not called) until
> > > current work item calls schedule_timeout_*().

That was because the work item was percpu and not marked
CPU_INTENSIVE.  Either using an unbound or CPU_INTENSIVE workqueue
should be enough.

> > > We had a problem that since vmstat_work work item was using system_wq,
> > > vmstat_work work item was not processed (i.e. vmstat_update() was not called) if
> > > kworker was looping inside memory allocator without calling schedule_timeout_*()
> > > due to disk_events_workfn() doing GFP_NOIO allocation).
> > 
> > hm, just for note, none of system-wide wqs seem to have a ->rescuer thread
> > (WQ_MEM_RECLAIM).

Because WQ_MEM_RECLAIM only guarantees concurrency of 1, it doesn't
make sense to set it to a shared workqueue.  A dedicated workquee
should be created per domain which needs forward progress guarantee.

> > hm. yes, seems that it may take some time until workqueue wakeup() a ->rescuer thread.
> > need to look more.
> 
> Yes, it takes some time (0.1s or 2 jiffies) before workqueue code gives up
> creating a worker process and wakes up rescuer thread. However I don't see
> that as a problem...

I don't think it matters.  At that point, the system should already be
thrashing heavily and everything is crawling anyway.  A couple jiffies
delay isn't gonna be noticeable.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-07 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-05 10:55 [RFC][PATCH v2 0/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-05 10:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 1/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06  6:32   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06  7:18     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-06  9:35       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06 11:06         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-06 13:27           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06 14:54             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-07  8:22             ` Jan Kara
2016-03-07 10:12               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 10:52                 ` Jan Kara
2016-03-07 12:16                   ` Jan Kara
2016-03-07 12:37                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-07 15:10                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 15:49                       ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-08 10:21                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-11 17:22                           ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-12  5:01                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-09  6:09                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-10  9:27                       ` Jan Kara
2016-03-10 15:48                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-10  9:53                       ` Petr Mladek
2016-03-10 16:26                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 14:40                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 11:10                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-07 14:36                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 15:42               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2016-03-05 10:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/2] printk: Skip messages on oops Sergey Senozhatsky

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