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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
To: sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, jack@suse.com, pmladek@suse.com,
	tj@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 20:10:19 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201603072010.GDC69723.VFHMFOOSFtLJQO@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160307101233.GA10690@swordfish>

Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On (03/07/16 09:22), Jan Kara wrote:
> [..]
> > > hm, just for note, none of system-wide wqs seem to have a ->rescuer thread
> > > (WQ_MEM_RECLAIM).
> > > 
> > > [..]
> > > > Even if you use printk_wq with WQ_MEM_RECLAIM for printing_work work item,
> > > > printing_work_func() will not be called until current work item calls
> > > > schedule_timeout_*(). That will be an undesirable random delay. If you use
> > > > a dedicated kernel thread rather than a dedicated workqueue with WQ_MEM_RECLAIM,
> > > > we can avoid this random delay.
> > > 
> > > hm. yes, seems that it may take some time until workqueue wakeup() a ->rescuer thread.
> > > need to look more.
> > 
> > Yes, it takes some time (0.1s or 2 jiffies) before workqueue code gives up
> > creating a worker process and wakes up rescuer thread. However I don't see
> > that as a problem...
> 
> yes, that's why I asked Tetsuo whether his concern was a wq's MAYDAY timer
> delay. the two commits that Tetsuo pointed at earlier in he loop (373ccbe59270
> and 564e81a57f97) solved the problem by switching to WQ_MEM_RECLAIM wq.
> I've slightly tested OOM-kill on my desktop system and haven't spotted any
> printk delays (well, a test on desktop is not really representative, of
> course).

I wanted to tell that if kworker is running a buggy function that calls
cond_resched() but does not call schedule_timeout_*() for very long time,
such delay can become many seconds. WQ_MEM_RECLAIM is a requirement for
waking up when kworker called schedule_timeout_*(). WQ_MEM_RECLAIM wq can
still cause huge delay if kworker does not call schedule_timeout_*().
Not specific to OOM-killer or vmstat.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-07 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-05 10:55 [RFC][PATCH v2 0/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-05 10:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 1/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06  6:32   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06  7:18     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-06  9:35       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06 11:06         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-06 13:27           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-06 14:54             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-07  8:22             ` Jan Kara
2016-03-07 10:12               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 10:52                 ` Jan Kara
2016-03-07 12:16                   ` Jan Kara
2016-03-07 12:37                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-07 15:10                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 15:49                       ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-08 10:21                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-11 17:22                           ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-12  5:01                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-09  6:09                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-10  9:27                       ` Jan Kara
2016-03-10 15:48                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-10  9:53                       ` Petr Mladek
2016-03-10 16:26                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 14:40                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 11:10                 ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2016-03-07 14:36                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-07 15:42               ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-05 10:55 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/2] printk: Skip messages on oops Sergey Senozhatsky

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