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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: xlpang@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/6] rtmutex: Deboost before waking up the top waiter
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:10:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160420131054.GA3430@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1604201427520.3941@nanos>

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 02:43:29PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > So its semantically icky to have the two tasks running off the same
> > state and practically icky when you consider bandwidth inheritance --
> > where the boosted task wants to explicitly modify the state of the
> > booster.
> >
> > In that latter case you really want to unboost before you let the
> > booster run again.
> 
> I understand that. That doesn't make the changelog any better, which mumbles
> about priorities :(

Agreed.

> > However, you noted we need to deal with this case due to the whole
> > optimistic spinning crap anyway :/
> 
> Right, but that's another dimension of madness. Both tasks are on a cpu.

> The reason why we boost the lock holder before spinning is to make
> sure that it does not get preempted by something of medium priority
> before dropping the lock. 

Right; I figured that out pretty quickly, which is why this patch does a
preempt_disable() over the unboost+wakeup.

FWIW, the immediate reason for this patch is that is ensures the new
p->pi_task pointer, points to something that exists.

> That really gets interesting with bandwith inheritance ....

I'm more worried about the optimistic spinning case..

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-20 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-14 11:37 [PATCH v3 0/6] sched/deadline/rtmutex: Fix two deadline PI issues Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] rtmutex: Deboost before waking up the top waiter Xunlei Pang
2016-04-18  8:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-04-18  8:44     ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-18  9:02       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-04-18  9:41         ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-20 12:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-20 12:43           ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-04-20 13:10             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] sched/rtmutex/deadline: Fix a PI crash for deadline tasks Xunlei Pang
2016-04-20 13:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-20 13:49     ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-22  3:26       ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] rtmutex: Move "rt_mutex_waiter" definition to "include/linux/rtmutex.h" Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] sched: Move dl_policy() to "include/linux/sched.h" Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] sched/deadline/rtmutex: Fix unprotected PI access in enqueue_task_dl() Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 15:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-15  1:58     ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-15  2:19       ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-20 12:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-20 13:00           ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-20 13:17             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-20 13:45               ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] sched/deadline/rtmutex: Don't miss the dl_runtime/dl_period update Xunlei Pang
2017-03-23 14:56 [PATCH -v3 0/8] PI vs SCHED_DEADLINE fixes Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 1/8] rtmutex: Deboost before waking up the top waiter Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04  9:48   ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Xunlei Pang
2017-04-05  8:08     ` Mike Galbraith
2017-04-05 14:55       ` [tip:locking/core] Retiplockingcore_rtmutex_Deboost_before_waking_up_the_top_waiter tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2017-04-05 15:03       ` [tip:locking/core] rtmutex: Plug preempt count leak in rt_mutex_futex_unlock() tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2017-04-06  6:16       ` [tip:locking/core] rtmutex: Deboost before waking up the top waiter Xunlei Pang
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 2/8] sched/rtmutex/deadline: Fix a PI crash for deadline tasks Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04  9:49   ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Xunlei Pang
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 3/8] sched/deadline/rtmutex: Dont miss the dl_runtime/dl_period update Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04  9:50   ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Xunlei Pang
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 4/8] rtmutex: Clean up Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 18:21   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-04-04  9:50   ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 5/8] sched/rtmutex: Refactor rt_mutex_setprio() Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04  9:51   ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 6/8] sched,tracing: Update trace_sched_pi_setprio() Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04  9:51   ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 7/8] rtmutex: Fix PI chain order integrity Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04  9:52   ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 8/8] rtmutex: Fix more prio comparisons Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04  9:52   ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra

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