From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: xlpang@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/6] rtmutex: Deboost before waking up the top waiter
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 14:43:29 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1604201427520.3941@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160420122011.GX3430@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, 20 Apr 2016, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:02:28AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, Xunlei Pang wrote:
> > > We add a preempt_disable() before deboost to avoid the breakage,
> > > there's also some comment about this in the patch's code.
> >
> > So the changelog is useless and misleading. Neither does it explain what's
> > wrong with having two tasks with the same priority in running state.
>
> So its semantically icky to have the two tasks running off the same
> state and practically icky when you consider bandwidth inheritance --
> where the boosted task wants to explicitly modify the state of the
> booster.
>
> In that latter case you really want to unboost before you let the
> booster run again.
I understand that. That doesn't make the changelog any better, which mumbles
about priorities :(
> However, you noted we need to deal with this case due to the whole
> optimistic spinning crap anyway :/
Right, but that's another dimension of madness. Both tasks are on a cpu. The
reason why we boost the lock holder before spinning is to make sure that it
does not get preempted by something of medium priority before dropping the
lock. That really gets interesting with bandwith inheritance ....
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-20 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-14 11:37 [PATCH v3 0/6] sched/deadline/rtmutex: Fix two deadline PI issues Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] rtmutex: Deboost before waking up the top waiter Xunlei Pang
2016-04-18 8:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-04-18 8:44 ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-18 9:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-04-18 9:41 ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-20 12:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-20 12:43 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2016-04-20 13:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] sched/rtmutex/deadline: Fix a PI crash for deadline tasks Xunlei Pang
2016-04-20 13:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-20 13:49 ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-22 3:26 ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] rtmutex: Move "rt_mutex_waiter" definition to "include/linux/rtmutex.h" Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] sched: Move dl_policy() to "include/linux/sched.h" Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] sched/deadline/rtmutex: Fix unprotected PI access in enqueue_task_dl() Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 15:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-15 1:58 ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-15 2:19 ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-20 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-20 13:00 ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-20 13:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-20 13:45 ` Xunlei Pang
2016-04-14 11:37 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] sched/deadline/rtmutex: Don't miss the dl_runtime/dl_period update Xunlei Pang
2017-03-23 14:56 [PATCH -v3 0/8] PI vs SCHED_DEADLINE fixes Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 1/8] rtmutex: Deboost before waking up the top waiter Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04 9:48 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Xunlei Pang
2017-04-05 8:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-04-05 14:55 ` [tip:locking/core] Retiplockingcore_rtmutex_Deboost_before_waking_up_the_top_waiter tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2017-04-05 15:03 ` [tip:locking/core] rtmutex: Plug preempt count leak in rt_mutex_futex_unlock() tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2017-04-06 6:16 ` [tip:locking/core] rtmutex: Deboost before waking up the top waiter Xunlei Pang
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 2/8] sched/rtmutex/deadline: Fix a PI crash for deadline tasks Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04 9:49 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Xunlei Pang
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 3/8] sched/deadline/rtmutex: Dont miss the dl_runtime/dl_period update Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04 9:50 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Xunlei Pang
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 4/8] rtmutex: Clean up Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 18:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-04-04 9:50 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 5/8] sched/rtmutex: Refactor rt_mutex_setprio() Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04 9:51 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 6/8] sched,tracing: Update trace_sched_pi_setprio() Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04 9:51 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 7/8] rtmutex: Fix PI chain order integrity Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04 9:52 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23 14:56 ` [PATCH -v3 8/8] rtmutex: Fix more prio comparisons Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-04 9:52 ` [tip:locking/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
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