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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm/sched: memdelay: memory health interface for systems and workloads
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 11:56:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170727155616.GA23665@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170727153010.23347-4-hannes@cmpxchg.org>

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:30:10AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> +	/*
> +	 * The domain is somewhat delayed when a number of tasks are
> +	 * delayed but there are still others running the workload.
> +	 *
> +	 * The domain is fully delayed when all non-idle tasks on the
> +	 * CPU are delayed, or when a delayed task is actively running
> +	 * and preventing productive tasks from making headway.
> +	 *
> +	 * The state times then add up over all CPUs in the domain: if
> +	 * the domain is fully blocked on one CPU and there is another
> +	 * one running the workload, the domain is considered fully
> +	 * blocked 50% of the time.
> +	 */
> +	if (!mdc->tasks[MTS_DELAYED_ACTIVE] && !mdc->tasks[MTS_DELAYED])
> +		state = MDS_NONE;
> +	else if (mdc->tasks[MTS_WORKING])
> +		state = MDS_SOME;
> +	else
> +		state = MDS_FULL;

Just a headsup, if you're wondering why the distinction between
delayed and delayed_active: I used to track iowait separately from
working, and in a brainfart oversimplified this part right here. It
should really be:

	if (delayed_active && !iowait)
		state = full
	else if (delayed)
		state = (working || iowait) ? some : full
	else
		state = none

I'm going to re-add separate iowait tracking in v2 and fix this, but
since this patch is already big and spans two major subsystems, I
wanted to run the overall design and idea by you first before doing
more polishing on this.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm/sched: memdelay: memory health interface for systems and workloads
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 11:56:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170727155616.GA23665@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170727153010.23347-4-hannes@cmpxchg.org>

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:30:10AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> +	/*
> +	 * The domain is somewhat delayed when a number of tasks are
> +	 * delayed but there are still others running the workload.
> +	 *
> +	 * The domain is fully delayed when all non-idle tasks on the
> +	 * CPU are delayed, or when a delayed task is actively running
> +	 * and preventing productive tasks from making headway.
> +	 *
> +	 * The state times then add up over all CPUs in the domain: if
> +	 * the domain is fully blocked on one CPU and there is another
> +	 * one running the workload, the domain is considered fully
> +	 * blocked 50% of the time.
> +	 */
> +	if (!mdc->tasks[MTS_DELAYED_ACTIVE] && !mdc->tasks[MTS_DELAYED])
> +		state = MDS_NONE;
> +	else if (mdc->tasks[MTS_WORKING])
> +		state = MDS_SOME;
> +	else
> +		state = MDS_FULL;

Just a headsup, if you're wondering why the distinction between
delayed and delayed_active: I used to track iowait separately from
working, and in a brainfart oversimplified this part right here. It
should really be:

	if (delayed_active && !iowait)
		state = full
	else if (delayed)
		state = (working || iowait) ? some : full
	else
		state = none

I'm going to re-add separate iowait tracking in v2 and fix this, but
since this patch is already big and spans two major subsystems, I
wanted to run the overall design and idea by you first before doing
more polishing on this.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-27 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-27 15:30 [PATCH 0/3] memdelay: memory health metric for systems and workloads Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched/loadavg: consolidate LOAD_INT, LOAD_FRAC macros Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: workingset: tell cache transitions from workingset thrashing Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/sched: memdelay: memory health interface for systems and workloads Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:56   ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2017-07-27 15:56     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-29  9:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-29  9:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-30 15:28     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-30 15:28       ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-31  8:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-31  8:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-31 18:41         ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-31 18:41           ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-31 19:49           ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-31 19:49             ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-31 20:38             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-31 20:38               ` Johannes Weiner
2017-08-01  2:23               ` Mike Galbraith
2017-08-01  2:23                 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-08-01  7:57           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01  7:57             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01 12:26             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-08-01 12:26               ` Johannes Weiner
2017-08-13 14:52               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-13 14:52                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-29 13:31   ` kbuild test robot
2017-07-27 20:43 ` [PATCH 0/3] memdelay: memory health metric " Andrew Morton
2017-07-27 20:43   ` Andrew Morton
2017-07-28 19:43   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-28 19:43     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-08-02  8:11     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-02  8:11       ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-29  2:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-29  2:48   ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-29  3:21   ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-29  3:21     ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-29  6:38   ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-29  6:38     ` Mike Galbraith

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