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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: Maran Wilson <maran.wilson@oracle.com>
Cc: kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, bthakur@codeaurora.org,
	Christoffer Dall <cdall@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <cdall@kernel.org>,
	peter.maydell@linaro.org, marc.zyngier@arm.com, david@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Christoffer Dall <christofferdall@christofferdall.dk>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] VCPU hotplug on KVM/ARM
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 08:45:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180725084502.751106ed@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b589d714-4f12-e450-7ca5-e55fed4d1705@oracle.com>

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:35:31 -0700
Maran Wilson <maran.wilson@oracle.com> wrote:

> It's been a few months since this email thread died off. Has anyone 
> started working on a potential solution that would allow VCPU hotplug on 
> KVM/ARM ? Or is this a project that is still waiting for an owner who 
> has the time and inclination to get started?
I'm working on QEMU side of it as time allows.

I can guide or share task if are you interested in helping out with it?


> Thanks,
> -Maran
> 
> On 2/27/2018 5:21 AM, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 01:46:04PM +0100, Christoffer Dall wrote:  
> >> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 05:34:28PM +0530, bthakur@codeaurora.org wrote:  
> >>> Hi Christoffer,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your reply.
> >>>
> >>> On 2018-02-27 16:17, Christoffer Dall wrote:  
> >>>> Hi Bhupinder,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 03:01:17PM +0530, bthakur@codeaurora.org wrote:  
> >>>>> I hope it is the right forum to post my query.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am currently looking at the possibility of adding a new VCPU to a
> >>>>> running
> >>>>> guest VM in KVM/ARM. I see that currently, it is not allowed to add a
> >>>>> new
> >>>>> VCPU to a guest VM, if it is already initialized. The first check in
> >>>>> kvm_arch_vcpu_create() returns failure if it is already initialized.
> >>>>>  
> >>>> This would require a major rework of a lot of logic surrounding the GIC
> >>>> and other parts of KVM initialization.
> >>>>  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There was some work done in QEMU to add support for VCPU hotplug:
> >>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-arm/2017-05/msg00404.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But I am looking at the KVM side for enabling adding a new VCPU. If you
> >>>>> can
> >>>>> point me to any relevant work/resources, which I can refer to then it
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> help me.
> >>>>>  
> >>>> I don't have any specific pointers, but I was always told that the way
> >>>> we were going to do CPU hotplug would be to instantiate a large number
> >>>> of VCPUs, and hotplug would be equivalent to turning on a VCPU which was
> >>>> previously powered off.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is this not still a feasible solution?  
> >>> It should be a feasible solution provided the guest VM is not able to
> >>> control the onlining/offlining of VCPUs. It should be controlled by the
> >>> Host.
> >>>  
> >> KVM could simply refuse to turn on some of the CPUs unless given
> >> permission from host userspace.
> >>  
> >>>> How does VCPU hotplug work on x86?  
> >>> On x86, you can add a vcpu through libvirt setvcpu command and it shows up
> >>> in the guest VM as a new CPU if you do lscpu.
> >>>  
> >> Sure, but what is the mechanism, does x86 qemu actually call
> >> KVM_CREATE_VCPU, or is this also a question of turning on already
> >> created vcpus ?
> >>  
> > CC'ing Igor and qemu-devel
> >
> > drew
> > _______________________________________________
> > kvmarm mailing list
> > kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> > https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/kvmarm  
> 
> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: Maran Wilson <maran.wilson@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoffer Dall <cdall@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Christoffer Dall <cdall@kernel.org>,
	marc.zyngier@arm.com, david@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Christoffer Dall <christofferdall@christofferdall.dk>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] VCPU hotplug on KVM/ARM
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 08:45:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180725084502.751106ed@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b589d714-4f12-e450-7ca5-e55fed4d1705@oracle.com>

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:35:31 -0700
Maran Wilson <maran.wilson@oracle.com> wrote:

> It's been a few months since this email thread died off. Has anyone 
> started working on a potential solution that would allow VCPU hotplug on 
> KVM/ARM ? Or is this a project that is still waiting for an owner who 
> has the time and inclination to get started?
I'm working on QEMU side of it as time allows.

I can guide or share task if are you interested in helping out with it?


> Thanks,
> -Maran
> 
> On 2/27/2018 5:21 AM, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 01:46:04PM +0100, Christoffer Dall wrote:  
> >> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 05:34:28PM +0530, bthakur@codeaurora.org wrote:  
> >>> Hi Christoffer,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your reply.
> >>>
> >>> On 2018-02-27 16:17, Christoffer Dall wrote:  
> >>>> Hi Bhupinder,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 03:01:17PM +0530, bthakur@codeaurora.org wrote:  
> >>>>> I hope it is the right forum to post my query.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am currently looking at the possibility of adding a new VCPU to a
> >>>>> running
> >>>>> guest VM in KVM/ARM. I see that currently, it is not allowed to add a
> >>>>> new
> >>>>> VCPU to a guest VM, if it is already initialized. The first check in
> >>>>> kvm_arch_vcpu_create() returns failure if it is already initialized.
> >>>>>  
> >>>> This would require a major rework of a lot of logic surrounding the GIC
> >>>> and other parts of KVM initialization.
> >>>>  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There was some work done in QEMU to add support for VCPU hotplug:
> >>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-arm/2017-05/msg00404.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But I am looking at the KVM side for enabling adding a new VCPU. If you
> >>>>> can
> >>>>> point me to any relevant work/resources, which I can refer to then it
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> help me.
> >>>>>  
> >>>> I don't have any specific pointers, but I was always told that the way
> >>>> we were going to do CPU hotplug would be to instantiate a large number
> >>>> of VCPUs, and hotplug would be equivalent to turning on a VCPU which was
> >>>> previously powered off.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is this not still a feasible solution?  
> >>> It should be a feasible solution provided the guest VM is not able to
> >>> control the onlining/offlining of VCPUs. It should be controlled by the
> >>> Host.
> >>>  
> >> KVM could simply refuse to turn on some of the CPUs unless given
> >> permission from host userspace.
> >>  
> >>>> How does VCPU hotplug work on x86?  
> >>> On x86, you can add a vcpu through libvirt setvcpu command and it shows up
> >>> in the guest VM as a new CPU if you do lscpu.
> >>>  
> >> Sure, but what is the mechanism, does x86 qemu actually call
> >> KVM_CREATE_VCPU, or is this also a question of turning on already
> >> created vcpus ?
> >>  
> > CC'ing Igor and qemu-devel
> >
> > drew
> > _______________________________________________
> > kvmarm mailing list
> > kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> > https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/kvmarm  
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-25  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-27  9:31 VCPU hotplug on KVM/ARM bthakur
2018-02-27 10:47 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-27 12:04   ` bthakur
2018-02-27 12:46     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-27 13:21       ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2018-02-27 13:21         ` Andrew Jones
2018-03-01  9:50         ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-03-01  9:50           ` Igor Mammedov
2018-03-01 10:05           ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Peter Maydell
2018-03-01 10:05             ` [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2018-03-01 13:32             ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " David Hildenbrand
2018-03-01 13:32               ` David Hildenbrand
2018-03-07 12:47               ` Marc Zyngier
2018-03-07 12:47                 ` Marc Zyngier
2018-07-24 18:35         ` [Qemu-devel] " Maran Wilson
2018-07-24 18:35           ` Maran Wilson
2018-07-25  6:45           ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2018-07-25  6:45             ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-07-25 10:40           ` Marc Zyngier
2018-07-25 10:40             ` Marc Zyngier
2018-07-25 12:28             ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 12:28               ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 13:07               ` Marc Zyngier
2018-07-25 13:07                 ` Marc Zyngier
2018-07-25 17:26                 ` Maran Wilson
2018-07-25 17:26                   ` Maran Wilson
2018-07-31 10:27                 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-07-31 10:27                   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-07-31 10:57                   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-31 10:57                     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-01  8:09                   ` Bharata B Rao
2018-08-01  8:09                     ` Bharata B Rao

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