From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Documentation
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:52:59 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190722115259.47bc749b@coco.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190612085405.6045d95d@lwn.net>
Em Wed, 12 Jun 2019 08:54:05 -0600
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> escreveu:
> What could be more fun than talking about kernel documentation? Things we
> could get into:
>
> - The state of the RST transition
Assuming that all patches on my development branch gets merged, we should
have:
- about 300 files missing conversion;
- about 40 files under Documentation/*.txt that needs to be
moved to a subdir and be renamed to *.rst.
> - Overall organization of Documentation/ and moving docs when the need
> arises.
Looking at Documentation/index.rst, I guess we're aiming to have something
like:
Documentation/
├── ABI
├── admin-guide
├── kbuild
├── arch
│ ├── arm
│ ├── arm64
│ ...
│ ├── x86
│ │ ├── i386
│ │ └── x86_64
│ └── xtensa
├── core-api
├── devicetree
├── dev-tools
├── doc-guide
├── driver-api
├── features
├── fault-injection
├── filesystems
├── firmware-guide
├── kernel-hacking
├── livepatch
├── maintainer
├── process
├── trace
└── translations
Btw, right now, ext4 fs docs is on two separate parts of
Documentation/index.rst:
filesystems/index
filesystems/ext4/index
We should probably get rid of filesystems/ext4/index entry (and the
corresponding PDF entry at conf.py).
-
IMO, the main work to be done in order to achieve that is related to
Driver's subsystem documentation.
What I've been doing so far - at least for most (if not all) driver docs
that carry more than one documentation type at the same subdir (kABI,
uABI and/or admin-guide) is to keep the directory as-is, adding them under
this section at Documentation/index.rst:
Kernel API documentation
------------------------
There are a couple of reasons why I opted for this strategy when
I did such conversions:
1) There are *lots* of docs that contain all 3 types of information
on it on a single file.
2) On media, we use SPHINXDIRS to produce the media book from our
devel tree:
https://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis-new/index.html
When documents are built with either PDF or SPHINXDIRS, each subdir
will be on a different book and all inter-book cross-references
will break.
For this to be fixed, intersphinx extension would be required,
but this would probably require a per-subsystem mapping
(for example, saying that the site used to resolve media
broken cross references is linuxtv.org).
Maintaining it can be painful, as we would have a big table
at conf.py with subsystem-specific stuff.
3) So far, I was unable to split even the media docs. Shame on
me! The reason is that this is not an easy task.
One interesting example is the open() documentation at the
media media uAPI book:
Documentation/media/uapi/v4l/open.rst
This file actually contains a lot of sysadmin relevant data (so, it
is a good candidate for the admin-guide).
Yet, it was written focused on what a media uAPI developer needs
to know. So, it also mentions Kernel userspace API syscalls:
open(), read(), close() - with has cross-references to other parts
of the uAPI book.
Splitting this file on two separate books won't be that easy.
Ideally, we should split what's there at media/uapi into admin-guide
and userspace-api, but this would mean *a lot* of effort. Not sure
if it is worth the time.
Also, while a sysadmin might want to know what a /dev/video0 device
means, the intended audience is really uAPI developers, as an user
will just click on its GUI to call a media application.
> - The ultimate vision for kernel docs (for now). RST conversion and
> imposing some organization are important, but they will not,
> themselves, give us a coherent set of documentation. What can we do to
> have documentation that is useful, current, and maintainable, rather
> than the dusty attic we have now?
The more I think the more I'm convinced that the best way to proceed would
be to use some Kernel books as an example and organize the main index.rst
files on a way that it will cover what a newbie Kernel developer would need
to know.
For example, looking at LDD3 organization (https://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/),
we could use its index as an starting point for what a driver-api book
should contain:
Chapter 1: An Introduction to Device Drivers
Chapter 3: Char Drivers
Chapter 6: Advanced Char Driver Operations
Chapter 9: Communicating with Hardware
Chapter 12: PCI Drivers
Chapter 13: USB Drivers
Chapter 14: The Linux Device Model
Chapter 16: Block Drivers
Chapter 17: Network Drivers
Chapter 18: TTY Drivers
Just looking on these, our driver-api book seem to be missing the
texts that would glue its contents, e. g. an introduction to device
drivers, to char/block devices and about how to communicate with the
hardware.
It can also help to identify the contents that a driver developer
would need from a core-api and a Kernel development bookset:
Chapter 2: Building and Running Modules
Chapter 4: Debugging Techniques
Chapter 5: Concurrency and Race Conditions
Chapter 7: Time, Delays, and Deferred Work
Chapter 8: Allocating Memory
Chapter 10: Interrupt Handling
Chapter 11: Data Types in the Kernel
I would do the same with other Linux and Linux Kernel related books.
-
Btw, if the authors of some existing old books release their stuff under
GPLv2 and allow us to import their contents, we could try to import some
parts of it that aren't too obsolete. The new automarkup extension
can help a lot to identify outdated documents, as it won't be able
to solve the func() calls.
Thanks,
Mauro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-22 14:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-12 14:54 [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Documentation Jonathan Corbet
2019-06-12 18:22 ` Shuah Khan
2019-06-12 19:12 ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-06-12 19:43 ` Shuah Khan
2019-06-13 14:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 21:40 ` Shuah Khan
2019-06-15 0:05 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 10:12 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 17:21 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 18:05 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH RFC] scripts: add a script to handle Documentation/features Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 18:05 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 18:11 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-17 18:11 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-06-17 19:45 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 19:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-12 20:33 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Documentation Kate Stewart
2019-06-13 14:17 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-13 14:57 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-13 18:48 ` Greg KH
2019-06-13 19:01 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-20 18:36 ` Kees Cook
2019-06-20 19:28 ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-07-22 14:52 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2020-06-09 20:53 Jonathan Corbet
2020-06-10 8:49 ` Dan Carpenter
2020-06-11 8:21 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-11 14:48 ` Linus Walleij
2020-06-11 18:03 ` Shuah Khan
2020-06-11 18:28 ` Joe Perches
2020-06-11 19:44 ` Shuah Khan
2020-06-12 8:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-06-12 9:19 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-06-12 10:58 ` Mark Brown
2020-06-12 15:48 ` Shuah Khan
2020-06-12 9:07 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-06-12 16:08 ` Shuah Khan
2020-06-13 16:42 ` Julia Lawall
2020-06-13 16:51 ` Joe Perches
2020-06-13 17:04 ` Julia Lawall
2020-06-14 13:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-14 14:13 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-06-15 9:46 ` Jani Nikula
2020-06-18 9:04 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-06-18 14:40 ` Joe Perches
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2020-07-09 11:42 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-09 12:11 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-09 16:59 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-09 17:29 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-09 17:57 ` Andrew Lunn
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