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From: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	linux-audit@redhat.com,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ntp audit spew.
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 17:00:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190923210021.5vfc2fo4wopennj5@madcap2.tricolour.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhTyz7fd+iQaymVXUGFe3ZA5Z_WkJeY_snDYiZ9GP6gCOA@mail.gmail.com>

On 2019-09-23 12:14, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 11:50 AM Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > I have some hosts that are constantly spewing audit messages like so:
> >
> > [46897.591182] audit: type=1333 audit(1569250288.663:220): op=offset old=2543677901372 new=2980866217213
> > [46897.591184] audit: type=1333 audit(1569250288.663:221): op=freq old=-2443166611284 new=-2436281764244

Odd.  It appears these two above should have the same serial number and
should be accompanied by a syscall record.  It appears that it has no
context to update to connect the two records.  Is it possible it is not
being called in a task context?  If that were the case though, I'd
expect audit_dummy_context() to return 1...

Checking audit_enabled should not be necessary but might fix the
problem, but still not explain why we're getting these records.

> > [48850.604005] audit: type=1333 audit(1569252241.675:222): op=offset old=1850302393317 new=3190241577926
> > [48850.604008] audit: type=1333 audit(1569252241.675:223): op=freq old=-2436281764244 new=-2413071187316
> > [49926.567270] audit: type=1333 audit(1569253317.638:224): op=offset old=2453141035832 new=2372389610455
> > [49926.567273] audit: type=1333 audit(1569253317.638:225): op=freq old=-2413071187316 new=-2403561671476
> >
> > This gets emitted every time ntp makes an adjustment, which is apparently very frequent on some hosts.
> >
> >
> > Audit isn't even enabled on these machines.
> >
> > # auditctl -l
> > No rules
> 
> [NOTE: added linux-audit to the CC line]
> 
> There is an audit mailing list, please CC it when you have audit
> concerns/questions/etc.
> 
> What happens when you run 'auditctl -a never,task'?  That *should*
> silence those messages as the audit_ntp_log() function has the
> requisite audit_dummy_context() check.  FWIW, this is the distro
> default for many (most? all?) distros; for example, check
> /etc/audit/audit.rules on a stock Fedora system.  A more selective
> configuration could simply exclude the TIME_ADJNTPVAL record (type
> 1333) from the records that the kernel emits.
> 
> We could also add a audit_enabled check at the top of
> audit_ntp_log()/__audit_ntp_log(), but I imagine some of that depends
> on the various security requirements (they can be bizzare and I can't
> say I'm up to date on all those - Steve Grubb should be able to
> comment on that).
> 
> -- 
> paul moore
> www.paul-moore.com
> 
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-audit

- RGB

--
Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>
Sr. S/W Engineer, Kernel Security, Base Operating Systems
Remote, Ottawa, Red Hat Canada
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-23 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-23 15:50 ntp audit spew Dave Jones
2019-09-23 16:14 ` Paul Moore
2019-09-23 16:58   ` Dave Jones
2019-09-23 18:57     ` Paul Moore
2019-09-23 19:49       ` Dave Jones
2019-09-23 19:49         ` Eric Paris
2019-09-24  2:39           ` Paul Moore
2019-09-24 13:30           ` Steve Grubb
2019-09-23 21:00   ` Richard Guy Briggs [this message]
2019-09-24  3:01     ` Paul Moore
2019-09-24 13:50       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-09-24 17:05         ` Paul Moore
2019-09-26 15:50           ` Paul Moore
2019-09-24 13:19   ` Steve Grubb
2019-09-24 17:01     ` Paul Moore
2019-10-31 16:39   ` [PATCH] audit: set context->dummy even when audit is off Chris Mason
2019-10-31 16:39     ` Chris Mason
2019-10-31 23:27     ` Paul Moore
2019-11-01 13:24       ` Chris Mason
2019-11-01 14:16         ` Steve Grubb
2019-11-01 14:26           ` Lenny Bruzenak
2019-11-01 14:49             ` Steve Grubb
2019-11-01 14:58               ` Lenny Bruzenak
2019-11-01 15:55           ` Chris Mason
2019-11-05  0:15         ` Paul Moore
2019-11-05  0:39           ` Chris Mason
2019-11-05  0:45             ` Paul Moore

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