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From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	linux-audit@redhat.com, Kyle McMartin <jkkm@fb.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] audit: set context->dummy even when audit is off
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 19:27:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhRwRSGa5JSL0=cXxG-oOg9jUve9OEYyTCqTxzr=aMdGxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191031163931.1102669-1-clm@fb.com>

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:40 PM Chris Mason <clm@fb.com> wrote:
> Dave Jones reported that we're finding a considerable amount of dmesg
> traffic from NTP time adjustments being reported through the audit
> subsystem.  His original post is here:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190923155041.GA14807@codemonkey.org.uk/
>
> The confusing part is that we're seeing this on machines that don't have
> audit on.  The NTP code uses audit_dummy_context() to decide if it
> should log things:
>
>         static inline void audit_ntp_log(const struct audit_ntp_data *ad)
>         {
>                 if (!audit_dummy_context())
>                         __audit_ntp_log(ad);
>         }
>
> I confirmed with perf probes that:
>
>         context->dummy = 0
>         audit_n_rules = 0
>         audit_enabled = 0
>         audit_ever_enabled = 1 // seems to be from journald
>
> The box boots, journald turns audit on, some time later our
> configuration management runs around and turns audit off.  This journald
> feature is discussed here: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/959
>
> From what I can tell, audit_syscall_entry is responsible for setting
> context->dummy, but we never get down to the test for audit_n_rules:
>
> __audit_syscall_entry(int major, unsigned long a1, unsigned long a2,
>                            unsigned long a3, unsigned long a4)
> {
>         struct audit_context *context = audit_context();
>         enum audit_state     state;
>
>         if (!audit_enabled || !context)
>                 return;
>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  --- we bail here
>
>         [ ... ]
>
>         context->dummy = !audit_n_rules;
>
> This leaves context->dummy at 0, which appears to be the original value
> from kzalloc().
>
> If you've gotten this far, you've read everything I know about the audit
> code.  With that said, my preference is to make a single source of truth for
> decisions about logging.  This commit changes __audit_syscall_entry() to
> set context->dummy when audit is off.
>
> Reported-by: Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>
> Signed-off-by: Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>
> ---
>  kernel/auditsc.c | 13 ++++++++++++-
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

Hi Chris,

This is a rather hasty email as I'm at a conference right now, but I
wanted to convey that I'm not opposed to making sure that the NTP
records obey the audit configuration (that was the original intent
after all), I think it is just that we are all a little confused as to
why you are seeing the NTP records *and*only* the NTP records.

It's been a while, but I thought we suggested Dave try running
'auditctl -a never,task' to see if that would solve his problem and I
believe his answer was no, which confused me a bit as the
audit_filter_task() call in audit_alloc() should see that rule and
return a state of AUDIT_DISABLED which not only prevents audit_alloc()
from allocating an audit_context (and remember if the audit_context is
NULL then audit_dummy_context() returns true), but it also clears the
TIF_SYSCALL_AUDIT flag (which I'm guessing you also want).

Can you confirm the results of 'auditctl -a never,task' on your systems?

-- 
paul moore
www.paul-moore.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-31 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-23 15:50 ntp audit spew Dave Jones
2019-09-23 16:14 ` Paul Moore
2019-09-23 16:58   ` Dave Jones
2019-09-23 18:57     ` Paul Moore
2019-09-23 19:49       ` Dave Jones
2019-09-23 19:49         ` Eric Paris
2019-09-24  2:39           ` Paul Moore
2019-09-24 13:30           ` Steve Grubb
2019-09-23 21:00   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-09-24  3:01     ` Paul Moore
2019-09-24 13:50       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2019-09-24 17:05         ` Paul Moore
2019-09-26 15:50           ` Paul Moore
2019-09-24 13:19   ` Steve Grubb
2019-09-24 17:01     ` Paul Moore
2019-10-31 16:39   ` [PATCH] audit: set context->dummy even when audit is off Chris Mason
2019-10-31 16:39     ` Chris Mason
2019-10-31 23:27     ` Paul Moore [this message]
2019-11-01 13:24       ` Chris Mason
2019-11-01 14:16         ` Steve Grubb
2019-11-01 14:26           ` Lenny Bruzenak
2019-11-01 14:49             ` Steve Grubb
2019-11-01 14:58               ` Lenny Bruzenak
2019-11-01 15:55           ` Chris Mason
2019-11-05  0:15         ` Paul Moore
2019-11-05  0:39           ` Chris Mason
2019-11-05  0:45             ` Paul Moore

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