From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: speck@linutronix.de
Subject: [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 08/11] TAAv5 8
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 02:14:25 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191016071425.hagogacjohvbqjsz@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YFH.7.76.1910160648230.13160@cbobk.fhfr.pm>
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 06:52:15AM +0200, speck for Jiri Kosina wrote:
> yOn Tue, 15 Oct 2019, speck for Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
>
> > So if I understand correctly, you're postulating that distros want:
> >
> > a) TAA_BUG && MDS_NO=0 => TSX on
> > b) TAA_BUG && MDS_NO=1 => TSX off
> > c) !TAA_BUG => TSX on
> >
> > How are you reaching that conclusion? It seems horribly confusing for
> > TSX users, but again maybe I'm missing something.
> >
> > It seems to me that "heavy users of TSX" would want tsx=on, no matter
> > what. And so we would need to leave that as the default in order to not
> > break those users.
>
> But then we're not defaulting to safe behavior, which is confusing too,
> because we almost (SMT being the exception) always did in the past for all
> the other previous issues.
Why wouldn't it be safe behavior? For both TAA_BUG cases, we can
mitigate TSX with verw buffer clearing.
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-16 7:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-05 6:17 [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 00/11] TAAv5 0 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 6:26 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 01/11] TAAv5 1 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 6:27 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 02/11] TAAv5 2 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 6:28 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 03/11] TAAv5 3 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 6:29 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 04/11] TAAv5 4 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 6:30 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 05/11] TAAv5 5 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 6:31 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 06/11] TAAv5 6 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 6:32 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 07/11] TAAv5 7 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 6:33 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 08/11] TAAv5 8 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 6:34 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 09/11] TAAv5 9 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 6:35 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 10/11] TAAv5 10 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 6:36 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 11/11] TAAv5 11 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 10:54 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 02/11] TAAv5 2 Borislav Petkov
2019-10-07 17:48 ` Pawan Gupta
[not found] ` <5d98396a.1c69fb81.6c7a8.23b1SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-05 21:43 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 03/11] TAAv5 3 Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-07 17:50 ` Pawan Gupta
[not found] ` <5d9839a4.1c69fb81.238e9.8312SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-05 21:45 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 04/11] TAAv5 4 Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <5d983ad2.1c69fb81.63edd.6575SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-05 21:49 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 09/11] TAAv5 9 Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-07 18:35 ` Pawan Gupta
[not found] ` <5d9838f1.1c69fb81.f1bab.d886SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-05 21:49 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] TAAv5 1 Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-06 17:40 ` Andrew Cooper
[not found] ` <5d983ad2.1c69fb81.e6640.8f51SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-06 17:06 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 09/11] TAAv5 9 Greg KH
2019-10-08 6:01 ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-10 21:31 ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-11 8:45 ` Greg KH
2019-10-21 8:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-08 2:46 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 05/11] TAAv5 5 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-09 1:45 ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-08 2:57 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 09/11] TAAv5 9 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-08 6:10 ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-08 10:49 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-09 13:12 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** [PATCH v5 08/11] TAAv5 8 Michal Hocko
2019-10-14 19:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-14 19:51 ` [MODERATED] " Jiri Kosina
2019-10-14 21:04 ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-14 21:31 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15 8:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-15 10:34 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-15 13:06 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-15 13:10 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15 15:26 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-15 15:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15 19:34 ` Tyler Hicks
2019-10-15 20:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-15 20:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15 20:35 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15 20:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-15 20:56 ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-15 21:14 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15 23:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-15 23:13 ` [MODERATED] [AUTOREPLY] [MODERATED] [AUTOREPLY] Automatic reply: " James, Hengameh M
2019-10-16 4:52 ` [MODERATED] " Jiri Kosina
2019-10-16 5:05 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-21 21:15 ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-16 7:14 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2019-10-16 7:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-18 1:17 ` Ben Hutchings
2019-10-18 4:04 ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-15 17:47 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-16 7:26 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Jiri Kosina
2019-10-16 7:54 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-16 9:23 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-16 12:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-16 18:34 ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-18 0:14 ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 8:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-21 12:54 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-21 20:01 ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:33 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-21 20:34 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-21 20:33 ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 23:01 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-21 23:37 ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-21 23:39 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-14 21:05 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
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