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From: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
To: speck@linutronix.de
Subject: [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: [PATCH v5 08/11] TAAv5 8
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 09:26:14 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YFH.7.76.1910160924330.13160@cbobk.fhfr.pm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191015103454.GW317@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, speck for Michal Hocko wrote:

> From 9666e91b63cd6213d362d04289e1bcbbe2050bc3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 11:21:01 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] x86, tsx: allow to set tsx=auto by a config option
> 
> There is a general consensus that TSX usage is not largely spread while
> the history shows there is a non trivial space for side channel attacks
> possible. Therefore the tsx is disabled by default even on platforms
> that might have a safe implementation of TSX according to the current
> knowledge. This is a fair trade off to make.
> 
> There are, however, workloads that really do benefit from using TSX and
> updating to a newer kernel with TSX disabled might introduce a
> noticeable regressions. This would be especially a problem for Linux
> distributions which will provide TAA mitigations.
> 
> Introduce X86_INTEL_ENABLE_SAFE_TSX config option to override the
> default tsx=off semantic and make tsx=auto a default which is more
> update friendly.

So given the recent clarifications, especially around older MDS_NO=0 CPUs, 
I think it'd actually make more sense to turn this into a config option 
that would simply allow to chose what the default behavior should be, 
chosing from tristate off/on/auto.

Thanks,

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-16  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-05  6:17 [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 00/11] TAAv5 0 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05  6:26 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 01/11] TAAv5 1 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05  6:27 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 02/11] TAAv5 2 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05  6:28 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 03/11] TAAv5 3 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05  6:29 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 04/11] TAAv5 4 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05  6:30 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 05/11] TAAv5 5 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05  6:31 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 06/11] TAAv5 6 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05  6:32 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 07/11] TAAv5 7 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05  6:33 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 08/11] TAAv5 8 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05  6:34 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 09/11] TAAv5 9 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05  6:35 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 10/11] TAAv5 10 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05  6:36 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v5 11/11] TAAv5 11 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-05 10:54 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 02/11] TAAv5 2 Borislav Petkov
2019-10-07 17:48   ` Pawan Gupta
     [not found] ` <5d98396a.1c69fb81.6c7a8.23b1SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-05 21:43   ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 03/11] TAAv5 3 Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-07 17:50     ` Pawan Gupta
     [not found] ` <5d9839a4.1c69fb81.238e9.8312SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-05 21:45   ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 04/11] TAAv5 4 Andy Lutomirski
     [not found] ` <5d983ad2.1c69fb81.63edd.6575SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-05 21:49   ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 09/11] TAAv5 9 Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-07 18:35     ` Pawan Gupta
     [not found] ` <5d9838f1.1c69fb81.f1bab.d886SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-05 21:49   ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] TAAv5 1 Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-06 17:40     ` Andrew Cooper
     [not found] ` <5d983ad2.1c69fb81.e6640.8f51SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-06 17:06   ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 09/11] TAAv5 9 Greg KH
2019-10-08  6:01     ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-10 21:31       ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-11  8:45         ` Greg KH
2019-10-21  8:00           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-08  2:46 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 05/11] TAAv5 5 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-09  1:45   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-08  2:57 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v5 09/11] TAAv5 9 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-08  6:10   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-08 10:49     ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-09 13:12 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** [PATCH v5 08/11] TAAv5 8 Michal Hocko
2019-10-14 19:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-14 19:51     ` [MODERATED] " Jiri Kosina
2019-10-14 21:04       ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-14 21:31         ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15  8:01           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-15 10:34             ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-15 13:06               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-15 13:10                 ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15 15:26                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-15 15:32                     ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15 19:34                       ` Tyler Hicks
2019-10-15 20:00                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-15 20:15                         ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15 20:35                           ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15 20:54                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-15 20:56                             ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-15 21:14                               ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-15 23:12                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-15 23:13                                   ` [MODERATED] [AUTOREPLY] [MODERATED] [AUTOREPLY] Automatic reply: " James, Hengameh M
2019-10-16  4:52                                   ` [MODERATED] " Jiri Kosina
2019-10-16  5:05                                     ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-21 21:15                                       ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-16  7:14                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-16  7:20                                       ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-18  1:17                                   ` Ben Hutchings
2019-10-18  4:04                                     ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-15 17:47               ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-16  7:26               ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2019-10-16  7:54                 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-16  9:23                   ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-16 12:15                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-16 18:34                       ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-18  0:14                       ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21  8:09                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-10-21 12:54                         ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-21 20:01                           ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:33                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-21 20:34                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-21 20:33                                 ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 23:01                                   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-21 23:37                                     ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-21 23:39                                       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-14 21:05       ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko

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