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* [virtio] [PATCH] pci: strengthen requirement of the correct subsystem id
@ 2019-10-28 16:12 Michael S. Tsirkin
  2019-11-24 12:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  2019-11-25  6:41 ` Jan Kiszka
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2019-10-28 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: virtio, virtio-dev

If a hardware implementation of virtio does not have
the correct subsystem id, then drivers can't report
ir properly, or detect and work around bugs.
Change the requirement from MAY to SHOULD.

We can't make it a MUST since we did not require this
historically.

Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
---
 content.tex | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
index 4bcb728..8f1518c 100644
--- a/content.tex
+++ b/content.tex
@@ -562,7 +562,7 @@ \subsection{PCI Device Discovery}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Ov
 For example, the network card device with the Virtio Device ID 1
 has the PCI Device ID 0x1041 or the Transitional PCI Device ID 0x1000.
 
-The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID MAY reflect
+The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID SHOULD reflect
 the PCI Vendor and Device ID of the environment (for informational purposes by the driver).
 
 Non-transitional devices SHOULD have a PCI Device ID in the range
-- 
MST


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* Re: [virtio] [PATCH] pci: strengthen requirement of the correct subsystem id
  2019-10-28 16:12 [virtio] [PATCH] pci: strengthen requirement of the correct subsystem id Michael S. Tsirkin
@ 2019-11-24 12:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  2019-11-25  6:41 ` Jan Kiszka
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2019-11-24 12:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: virtio-comment, virtio-dev; +Cc: virtio

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:12:49PM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> If a hardware implementation of virtio does not have
> the correct subsystem id, then drivers can't report
> ir properly, or detect and work around bugs.
> Change the requirement from MAY to SHOULD.
> 
> We can't make it a MUST since we did not require this
> historically.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>

Fixes: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec/issues/61

> ---
>  content.tex | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> index 4bcb728..8f1518c 100644
> --- a/content.tex
> +++ b/content.tex
> @@ -562,7 +562,7 @@ \subsection{PCI Device Discovery}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Ov
>  For example, the network card device with the Virtio Device ID 1
>  has the PCI Device ID 0x1041 or the Transitional PCI Device ID 0x1000.
>  
> -The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID MAY reflect
> +The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID SHOULD reflect
>  the PCI Vendor and Device ID of the environment (for informational purposes by the driver).
>  
>  Non-transitional devices SHOULD have a PCI Device ID in the range
> -- 
> MST
> 
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* Re: [virtio] [PATCH] pci: strengthen requirement of the correct subsystem id
  2019-10-28 16:12 [virtio] [PATCH] pci: strengthen requirement of the correct subsystem id Michael S. Tsirkin
  2019-11-24 12:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
@ 2019-11-25  6:41 ` Jan Kiszka
  2019-11-25  8:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jan Kiszka @ 2019-11-25  6:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael S. Tsirkin, virtio, virtio-dev

On 28.10.19 17:12, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> If a hardware implementation of virtio does not have
> the correct subsystem id, then drivers can't report
> ir properly, or detect and work around bugs.

s/ir/it.

Jan

> Change the requirement from MAY to SHOULD.
> 
> We can't make it a MUST since we did not require this
> historically.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> ---
>   content.tex | 2 +-
>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> index 4bcb728..8f1518c 100644
> --- a/content.tex
> +++ b/content.tex
> @@ -562,7 +562,7 @@ \subsection{PCI Device Discovery}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Ov
>   For example, the network card device with the Virtio Device ID 1
>   has the PCI Device ID 0x1041 or the Transitional PCI Device ID 0x1000.
>   
> -The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID MAY reflect
> +The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID SHOULD reflect
>   the PCI Vendor and Device ID of the environment (for informational purposes by the driver).
>   
>   Non-transitional devices SHOULD have a PCI Device ID in the range
> 

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Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

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* Re: [virtio] [PATCH] pci: strengthen requirement of the correct subsystem id
  2019-11-25  6:41 ` Jan Kiszka
@ 2019-11-25  8:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  2019-11-25 10:14     ` Cornelia Huck
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2019-11-25  8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Kiszka; +Cc: virtio, virtio-dev

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 07:41:09AM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 28.10.19 17:12, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > If a hardware implementation of virtio does not have
> > the correct subsystem id, then drivers can't report
> > ir properly, or detect and work around bugs.
> 
> s/ir/it.
> 
> Jan
> 
> > Change the requirement from MAY to SHOULD.
> > 
> > We can't make it a MUST since we did not require this
> > historically.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>


One thing I noticed is that for transitional devices, windows drivers
bind to a specific vendor id. I guess we need to make this
SHOULD for non-transitional only?


> > ---
> >   content.tex | 2 +-
> >   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > index 4bcb728..8f1518c 100644
> > --- a/content.tex
> > +++ b/content.tex
> > @@ -562,7 +562,7 @@ \subsection{PCI Device Discovery}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Ov
> >   For example, the network card device with the Virtio Device ID 1
> >   has the PCI Device ID 0x1041 or the Transitional PCI Device ID 0x1000.
> > -The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID MAY reflect
> > +The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID SHOULD reflect
> >   the PCI Vendor and Device ID of the environment (for informational purposes by the driver).
> >   Non-transitional devices SHOULD have a PCI Device ID in the range
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RDA IOT SES-DE
> Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux


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* Re: [virtio] [PATCH] pci: strengthen requirement of the correct subsystem id
  2019-11-25  8:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
@ 2019-11-25 10:14     ` Cornelia Huck
  2019-11-27 13:02       ` [virtio] Re: [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Cornelia Huck @ 2019-11-25 10:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael S. Tsirkin; +Cc: Jan Kiszka, virtio, virtio-dev

On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 03:22:13 -0500
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 07:41:09AM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > On 28.10.19 17:12, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:  
> > > If a hardware implementation of virtio does not have
> > > the correct subsystem id, then drivers can't report
> > > ir properly, or detect and work around bugs.  
> > 
> > s/ir/it.
> > 
> > Jan
> >   
> > > Change the requirement from MAY to SHOULD.
> > > 
> > > We can't make it a MUST since we did not require this
> > > historically.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>  
> 
> 
> One thing I noticed is that for transitional devices, windows drivers
> bind to a specific vendor id. I guess we need to make this
> SHOULD for non-transitional only?

So, they have different binding behaviour for transitional vs
non-transitional devices? Or transitional vs non-transitional drivers?

> 
> 
> > > ---
> > >   content.tex | 2 +-
> > >   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > > index 4bcb728..8f1518c 100644
> > > --- a/content.tex
> > > +++ b/content.tex
> > > @@ -562,7 +562,7 @@ \subsection{PCI Device Discovery}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Ov
> > >   For example, the network card device with the Virtio Device ID 1
> > >   has the PCI Device ID 0x1041 or the Transitional PCI Device ID 0x1000.
> > > -The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID MAY reflect
> > > +The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID SHOULD reflect
> > >   the PCI Vendor and Device ID of the environment (for informational purposes by the driver).
> > >   Non-transitional devices SHOULD have a PCI Device ID in the range


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* [virtio] Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] [PATCH] pci: strengthen requirement of the correct subsystem id
  2019-11-25 10:14     ` Cornelia Huck
@ 2019-11-27 13:02       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2019-11-27 13:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Cornelia Huck; +Cc: Jan Kiszka, virtio, virtio-dev

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:14:20AM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 03:22:13 -0500
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 07:41:09AM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > > On 28.10.19 17:12, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:  
> > > > If a hardware implementation of virtio does not have
> > > > the correct subsystem id, then drivers can't report
> > > > ir properly, or detect and work around bugs.  
> > > 
> > > s/ir/it.
> > > 
> > > Jan
> > >   
> > > > Change the requirement from MAY to SHOULD.
> > > > 
> > > > We can't make it a MUST since we did not require this
> > > > historically.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>  
> > 
> > 
> > One thing I noticed is that for transitional devices, windows drivers
> > bind to a specific vendor id. I guess we need to make this
> > SHOULD for non-transitional only?
> 
> So, they have different binding behaviour for transitional vs
> non-transitional devices? Or transitional vs non-transitional drivers?

Transitional vs non-transitional have different IDs, sure.
That's in the spec.

> > 
> > 
> > > > ---
> > > >   content.tex | 2 +-
> > > >   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > > > index 4bcb728..8f1518c 100644
> > > > --- a/content.tex
> > > > +++ b/content.tex
> > > > @@ -562,7 +562,7 @@ \subsection{PCI Device Discovery}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Ov
> > > >   For example, the network card device with the Virtio Device ID 1
> > > >   has the PCI Device ID 0x1041 or the Transitional PCI Device ID 0x1000.
> > > > -The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID MAY reflect
> > > > +The PCI Subsystem Vendor ID and the PCI Subsystem Device ID SHOULD reflect
> > > >   the PCI Vendor and Device ID of the environment (for informational purposes by the driver).
> > > >   Non-transitional devices SHOULD have a PCI Device ID in the range
> 
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