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From: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Kiran Patil <kiran.patil@intel.com>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Shiraz Saleem <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>,
	Martin Habets <mhabets@solarflare.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>,
	Fred Oh <fred.oh@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Ertman <david.m.ertman@intel.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>,
	lee.jones@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [resend/standalone PATCH v4] Add auxiliary bus support
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 01:22:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201219002208.GI3143569@piout.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201218233608.GA552508@nvidia.com>

On 18/12/2020 19:36:08-0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:16:58PM +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> 
> > But then again, what about non-enumerable devices on the PCI device? I
> > feel this would exactly fit MFD. This is a collection of IPs that exist
> > as standalone but in this case are grouped in a single device.
> 
> So, if mfd had a mfd_device and a mfd bus_type then drivers would need
> to have both a mfd_driver and a platform_driver to bind. Look at
> something like drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis.c to see how a multi-probe
> driver is structured
> 
> See Mark's remarks about the old of_platform_device, to explain why we
> don't have a 'dt_device' today
> 

So, what would that mfd_driver have that the platform_driver doesn't
already provide?

> > Note that I then have another issue because the kernel doesn't support
> > irq controllers on PCI and this is exactly what my SoC has. But for now,
> > I can just duplicate the irqchip driver in the MFD driver.
> 
> I think Thomas fixed that recently on x86 at least.. 
> 
> Having to put dummy irq chip drivers in MFD anything sounds scary :|
> 

This isn't a dummy driver it is a real irqchip, what issue is there to
register an irqchip from MFD ?

> > Let me point to drivers/net/ethernet/cadence/macb_pci.c which is a
> > fairly recent example. It does exactly that and I'm not sure you could
> > do it otherwise while still not having to duplicate most of macb_probe.
> 
> Creating a platform_device to avoid restructuring the driver's probe
> and device logic to be generic is a *really* horrible reason to use a
> platform device.
> 

Definitively but it made it in and seemed reasonable at the time it
seems. I stumbled upon that a while ago because I wanted to remove
platform_data support from the macb driver and this is the last user. I
never got the time to tackle that.

-- 
Alexandre Belloni, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

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From: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, lee.jones@linaro.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kiran Patil <kiran.patil@intel.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Martin Habets <mhabets@solarflare.com>,
	Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Fred Oh <fred.oh@linux.intel.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Dave Ertman <david.m.ertman@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Shiraz Saleem <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [resend/standalone PATCH v4] Add auxiliary bus support
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 01:22:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201219002208.GI3143569@piout.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201218233608.GA552508@nvidia.com>

On 18/12/2020 19:36:08-0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:16:58PM +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> 
> > But then again, what about non-enumerable devices on the PCI device? I
> > feel this would exactly fit MFD. This is a collection of IPs that exist
> > as standalone but in this case are grouped in a single device.
> 
> So, if mfd had a mfd_device and a mfd bus_type then drivers would need
> to have both a mfd_driver and a platform_driver to bind. Look at
> something like drivers/char/tpm/tpm_tis.c to see how a multi-probe
> driver is structured
> 
> See Mark's remarks about the old of_platform_device, to explain why we
> don't have a 'dt_device' today
> 

So, what would that mfd_driver have that the platform_driver doesn't
already provide?

> > Note that I then have another issue because the kernel doesn't support
> > irq controllers on PCI and this is exactly what my SoC has. But for now,
> > I can just duplicate the irqchip driver in the MFD driver.
> 
> I think Thomas fixed that recently on x86 at least.. 
> 
> Having to put dummy irq chip drivers in MFD anything sounds scary :|
> 

This isn't a dummy driver it is a real irqchip, what issue is there to
register an irqchip from MFD ?

> > Let me point to drivers/net/ethernet/cadence/macb_pci.c which is a
> > fairly recent example. It does exactly that and I'm not sure you could
> > do it otherwise while still not having to duplicate most of macb_probe.
> 
> Creating a platform_device to avoid restructuring the driver's probe
> and device logic to be generic is a *really* horrible reason to use a
> platform device.
> 

Definitively but it made it in and seemed reasonable at the time it
seems. I stumbled upon that a while ago because I wanted to remove
platform_data support from the macb driver and this is the last user. I
never got the time to tackle that.

-- 
Alexandre Belloni, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-19  0:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-03  0:54 [resend/standalone PATCH v4] Add auxiliary bus support Dan Williams
2020-12-03  0:54 ` Dan Williams
2020-12-03 15:06 ` Greg KH
2020-12-03 15:06   ` Greg KH
2020-12-04  2:33   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04  2:33     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04  3:37     ` Dan Williams
2020-12-04  3:37       ` Dan Williams
2020-12-03 15:07 ` Greg KH
2020-12-03 15:07   ` Greg KH
2020-12-03 15:55   ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-03 15:55     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-04 11:42 ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:42   ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:43   ` [PATCH 1/3] driver core: auxiliary bus: move slab.h from include file Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:43     ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:44     ` [PATCH 2/3] driver core: auxiliary bus: make remove function return void Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:44       ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:44       ` [PATCH 3/3] driver core: auxiliary bus: minor coding style tweaks Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:44         ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:48         ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:48           ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:49       ` [PATCH v2 " Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:49         ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 12:32   ` [resend/standalone PATCH v4] Add auxiliary bus support Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-04 12:32     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-04 12:43     ` Parav Pandit
2020-12-04 12:43       ` Parav Pandit
2020-12-04 12:59     ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 12:59       ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 17:10       ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-12-04 17:10         ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-12-05  9:02         ` Greg KH
2020-12-05  9:02           ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 16:41   ` Dan Williams
2020-12-04 16:41     ` Dan Williams
2020-12-05 15:51     ` Greg KH
2020-12-05 15:51       ` Greg KH
2020-12-17 21:19       ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-17 21:19         ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-18  2:39         ` Dan Williams
2020-12-18  2:39           ` Dan Williams
2020-12-18 14:20           ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 14:20             ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18  7:10         ` Greg KH
2020-12-18  7:10           ` Greg KH
2020-12-18 13:17           ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 13:17             ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 13:46             ` Lee Jones
2020-12-18 13:46               ` Lee Jones
2020-12-18 14:08             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 14:08               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 15:52               ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 15:52                 ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 16:28                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 16:28                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 17:15                   ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-18 17:15                     ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-18 18:03                   ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 18:03                     ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 18:41                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 18:41                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 19:09                       ` Lee Jones
2020-12-18 19:09                         ` Lee Jones
2020-12-18 20:14                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 20:14                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 20:32                       ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 20:32                         ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 20:58                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 20:58                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 21:16                           ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-18 21:16                             ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-18 22:36                             ` Dan Williams
2020-12-18 22:36                               ` Dan Williams
2020-12-18 23:36                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 23:36                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-19  0:22                               ` Alexandre Belloni [this message]
2020-12-19  0:22                                 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-21 18:51                           ` Mark Brown
2020-12-21 18:51                             ` Mark Brown
2021-01-04 18:08                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-04 18:08                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-04 21:19                               ` Mark Brown
2021-01-04 21:19                                 ` Mark Brown
2021-01-05  0:13                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05  0:13                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05  0:51                                   ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  0:51                                     ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  1:53                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05  1:53                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05  3:12                                       ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  3:12                                         ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05 12:49                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05 12:49                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05 13:42                                   ` Mark Brown
2021-01-05 13:42                                     ` Mark Brown
2021-01-05 14:36                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05 14:36                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05 15:47                                       ` Mark Brown
2021-01-05 15:47                                         ` Mark Brown
2020-12-04 12:35 ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 12:35   ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 12:54   ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-04 12:54     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-04 16:25     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-04 16:25       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-04 17:57       ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-12-04 17:57         ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-12-04 18:05   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-12-04 18:05     ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-12-06  0:24 ` David Ahern
2020-12-06  0:24   ` David Ahern
2020-12-06  0:32   ` Dan Williams
2020-12-06  0:32     ` Dan Williams

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