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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Khazhismel Kumykov <khazhy@google.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/15] File system wide monitoring
Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 12:43:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210511104327.GI24154@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxi3yigb2gUjXHJQOVbPHR3RFDeyKc5i0X-k8CSLwurejg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 27-04-21 07:11:49, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> The ring buffer functionality for fsnotify is interesting and it may be
> useful on its own, but IMO, its too big of a hammer for the problem
> at hand.
> 
> The question that you should be asking yourself is what is the
> expected behavior in case of a flood of filesystem corruption errors.
> I think it has already been expressed by filesystem maintainers on
> one your previous postings, that a flood of filesystem corruption
> errors is often noise and the only interesting information is the first error.
> 
> For this reason, I think that FS_ERROR could be implemented
> by attaching an fsnotify_error_info object to an fsnotify_sb_mark:
> 
> struct fsnotify_sb_mark {
>         struct fsnotify_mark fsn_mark;
>         struct fsnotify_error_info info;
> }
> 
> Similar to fd sampled errseq, there can be only one error report
> per sb-group pair (i.e. fsnotify_sb_mark) and the memory needed to store
> the error report can be allocated at the time of setting the filesystem mark.
> 
> With this, you will not need the added complexity of the ring buffer
> and you will not need to limit FAN_ERROR reporting to a group that
> is only listening for FAN_ERROR, which is an unneeded limitation IMO.

Seeing that this 'single error per mark' idea is gathering some support I'd
like to add my 2c: Probably we don't want fsnotify_error_info attached to
every fsnotify_mark, I guess we can have:

struct fanotify_mark {
	struct fsnotify_mark fsn_mark;
	struct fanotify_error_event *event;
};

and 'event' will be normally NULL and if we add FAN_ERROR to mark's mask,
we will allocate event (also containing error info) to use when generating
error event. And then the handling will be somewhat similar to how we
handle overflow events.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-11 10:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-26 18:41 [PATCH RFC 00/15] File system wide monitoring Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] fanotify: Fold event size calculation to its own function Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-27  4:42   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] fanotify: Split fsid check from other fid mode checks Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-27  4:53   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] fsnotify: Wire flags field on group allocation Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-27  5:03   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] fsnotify: Wire up group information on event initialization Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] fsnotify: Support event submission through ring buffer Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-26 22:00   ` kernel test robot
2021-04-26 22:43   ` kernel test robot
2021-04-27  5:39   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-29 18:33     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] fanotify: Support " Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-27  6:02   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-29 18:36     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] fsnotify: Support FS_ERROR event type Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-27  8:39   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] fsnotify: Introduce helpers to send error_events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-27  6:49   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] fanotify: Introduce generic error record Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-27  7:01   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] fanotify: Introduce code location record Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-27  7:11   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-29 18:40     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-11  5:35       ` Khazhy Kumykov
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] fanotify: Introduce filesystem specific data record Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-27  7:12   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] fanotify: Introduce the FAN_ERROR mark Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-26 22:45   ` kernel test robot
2021-04-27  7:25   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-26 18:41 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] ext4: Send notifications on error Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-26 23:10   ` kernel test robot
2021-04-27  4:32   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-29  0:57   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-04-26 18:42 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] samples: Add fs error monitoring example Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-26 23:10   ` kernel test robot
2021-04-26 18:42 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] Documentation: Document the FAN_ERROR framework Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-04-27  4:11 ` [PATCH RFC 00/15] File system wide monitoring Amir Goldstein
2021-04-27 15:44   ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-11  4:45     ` Khazhy Kumykov
2021-05-11 10:43   ` Jan Kara [this message]
2021-04-27  4:33 [PATCH RFC 12/15] fanotify: Introduce the FAN_ERROR mark kernel test robot
2021-04-29 11:31 ` Dan Carpenter
2021-04-27  8:36 [PATCH RFC 13/15] ext4: Send notifications on error kernel test robot
2021-04-29 13:19 ` Dan Carpenter

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