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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 8/8] videobuf2: handle non-contiguous DMA allocations
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 06:25:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210618042526.GA17794@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAFQd5CgLDkJ3t1aU2PRcGu6cGFjLXOnvMqDg62Z7Zuc8ABVHg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 12:21:33PM +0900, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 06:40:58PM +0900, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > > Sorry, I meant dma_alloc_attrs() and yes, it's indeed a misnomer. Our
> > > use case basically has no need for the additional coherent mapping, so
> > > creation of it can be skipped to save some vmalloc space. (Yes, it
> > > probably only matters for 32-bit architectures.)
> >
> > Yes, that is the normal use case, and it is solved by using
> > dma_alloc_noncoherent or dma_alloc_noncontigous without the vmap
> > step.
> 
> True, silly me. Probably not enough coffee at the time I was looking at it.
> 
> With that, wouldn't it be possible to completely get rid of
> dma_alloc_{coherent,attrs}() and use dma_alloc_noncontiguous() +
> optional kernel and/or userspace mapping helper everywhere? (Possibly
> renaming it to something as simple as dma_alloc().

Well, dma_alloc_coherent users want a non-cached mapping.  And while
some architectures provide that using a vmap with "uncached" bits in the
PTE to provide that, this:

 a) is not possibly everywhere
 b) even where possible is not always the best idea as it creates mappings
    with differnet cachability bets

And even without that dma_alloc_noncoherent causes less overhead than
dma_alloc_noncontigious if you only need a single contiguous range.

So while I'm happy we have something useful for more complex drivers like
v4l I think the simple dma_alloc_coherent API, including some of the less
crazy flags for dma_alloc_attrs is the right thing to use for more than
90% of the use cases.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-18  4:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-27 13:13 [PATCHv2 0/8] videobuf2: support new noncontiguous DMA API Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-04-27 13:13 ` [PATCHv2 1/8] videobuf2: rework vb2_mem_ops API Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-04-27 13:13 ` [PATCHv2 2/8] videobuf2: inverse buffer cache_hints flags Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-04-27 13:13 ` [PATCHv2 3/8] videobuf2: split buffer cache_hints initialisation Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-04-27 13:13 ` [PATCHv2 4/8] videobuf2: move cache_hints handling to allocators Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-04-27 13:13 ` [PATCHv2 5/8] videobuf2: add V4L2_MEMORY_FLAG_NON_COHERENT flag Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-04-27 13:13 ` [PATCHv2 6/8] videobuf2: add queue memory coherency parameter Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-04-27 13:13 ` [PATCHv2 7/8] videobuf2: handle V4L2_MEMORY_FLAG_NON_COHERENT flag Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-05-01  3:48   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-06-03 11:32   ` Hans Verkuil
2021-06-17  1:46     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-04-27 13:13 ` [PATCHv2 8/8] videobuf2: handle non-contiguous DMA allocations Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-04-28  6:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-03 11:59   ` Hans Verkuil
2021-06-17  7:56     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-06-17  8:01       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-17  8:30         ` Tomasz Figa
2021-06-17  8:52           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-17  9:40             ` Tomasz Figa
2021-06-17 10:06               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-18  3:21                 ` Tomasz Figa
2021-06-18  4:25                   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2021-06-18  4:44                     ` Tomasz Figa
2021-06-22  7:33                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-07 12:42                         ` Tomasz Figa
2021-06-25  3:10       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-07-07 12:48         ` Tomasz Figa
2021-07-07 13:29           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-07-07 14:10             ` Tomasz Figa
2021-07-09  7:20               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-06-17  7:56     ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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