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From: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: jejb@linux.ibm.com, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	zohar@linux.ibm.com, serge@hallyn.com,
	containers@lists.linux.dev, dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, krzysztof.struczynski@huawei.com,
	roberto.sassu@huawei.com, mpeters@redhat.com, lhinds@redhat.com,
	lsturman@redhat.com, puiterwi@redhat.com, jamjoom@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paul@paul-moore.com,
	rgb@redhat.com, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	jmorris@namei.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 19/19] ima: Setup securityfs for IMA namespace
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 15:11:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211206141108.evjrqsmmgpjp3ias@wittgenstein> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6306b4e5-f26d-1704-6344-354eb5387abf@linux.ibm.com>

On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 01:06:13PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
> 
> On 12/3/21 12:03, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Thu, 2021-12-02 at 21:31 -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
> > [...]
> > >   static int securityfs_init_fs_context(struct fs_context *fc)
> > >   {
> > > +	int rc;
> > > +
> > > +	if (fc->user_ns->ima_ns->late_fs_init) {
> > > +		rc = fc->user_ns->ima_ns->late_fs_init(fc->user_ns);
> > > +		if (rc)
> > > +			return rc;
> > > +	}
> > >   	fc->ops = &securityfs_context_ops;
> > >   	return 0;
> > >   }
> > I know I suggested this, but to get this to work in general, it's going
> > to have to not be specific to IMA, so it's going to have to become
> > something generic like a notifier chain.  The other problem is it's
> > only working still by accident:
> 
> I had thought about this also but the rationale was:
> 
> securityfs is compiled due to CONFIG_IMA_NS and the user namespace exists
> there and that has a pointer now to ima_namespace, which can have that
> callback. I assumed that other namespaced subsystems could also be reached
> then via such a callback, but I don't know.
> 
> I suppose any late filesystem init callchain would have to be connected to
> the user_namespace somehow?
> 
> 
> > 
> > > +int ima_fs_ns_init(struct ima_namespace *ns)
> > > +{
> > > +	ns->mount = securityfs_ns_create_mount(ns->user_ns);
> > This actually triggers on the call to securityfs_init_fs_context, but
> > nothing happens because the callback is null.  Every subsequent use of
> > fscontext will trigger this.  The point of a keyed supeblock is that
> > fill_super is only called once per key, that's the place we should be
> > doing this.   It should also probably be a blocking notifier so any
> > consumer of securityfs can be namespaced by registering for this
> > notifier.
> 
> 
> What I don't like about the fill_super is that it gets called too early:
> 
> [   67.058611] securityfs_ns_create_mount @ 102 target user_ns:
> ffff95c010698c80; nr_extents: 0
> [   67.059836] securityfs_fill_super @ 47  user_ns: ffff95c010698c80;
> nr_extents: 0
> 
> We are switching to the target user namespace in securityfs_ns_create_mount.
> The expected nr_extents at this point is 0, since user_ns hasn't been
> configured, yet. But then security_fill_super is also called with nr_extents
> 0. We cannot use that, it's too early!

So the problem is that someone could mount securityfs before any
idmappings are setup or what? How does moving the setup to a later stage
help at all? I'm struggling to make sense of this. When or even if
idmappings are written isn't under imas control. Someone could mount
securityfs without any idmappings setup. In that case they should get
what they deserve, everything owner by overflowuid/overflowgid, no? Or
you can require in fill_super that kuid 0 and kgid 0 are mapped and fail
if they aren't.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-06 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-03  2:30 [RFC v2 00/19] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 01/19] ima: Add IMA namespace support Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 02/19] ima: Define ns_status for storing namespaced iint data Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 03/19] ima: Namespace audit status flags Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 04/19] ima: Move delayed work queue and variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 05/19] ima: Move IMA's keys queue related " Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 06/19] ima: Move policy " Stefan Berger
2021-12-03 16:50   ` kernel test robot
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 07/19] ima: Move ima_htable " Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 08/19] ima: Move measurement list related variables " Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 09/19] ima: Only accept AUDIT rules for IMA non-init_ima_ns namespaces for now Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 10/19] ima: Implement hierarchical processing of file accesses Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 11/19] securityfs: Prefix global variables with securityfs_ Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 12/19] securityfs: Pass static variables as parameters from top level functions Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 13/19] securityfs: Extend securityfs with namespacing support Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 14/19] ima: Move some IMA policy and filesystem related variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 15/19] capabilities: Introduce CAP_INTEGRITY_ADMIN Stefan Berger
2021-12-03 16:40   ` Casey Schaufler
2021-12-03 17:39     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 16/19] ima: Use integrity_admin_ns_capable() to check corresponding capability Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 17/19] userns: Introduce a refcount variable for calling early teardown function Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 18/19] ima/userns: Define early teardown function for IMA namespace Stefan Berger
2021-12-03  2:31 ` [RFC v2 19/19] ima: Setup securityfs " Stefan Berger
2021-12-03 11:04   ` kernel test robot
2021-12-03 11:04     ` kernel test robot
2021-12-03 12:36   ` kernel test robot
2021-12-03 15:07   ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-03 17:03   ` James Bottomley
2021-12-03 18:06     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-03 18:50       ` James Bottomley
2021-12-03 19:11         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-04  0:33           ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-06 11:52             ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-06  4:27           ` James Bottomley
2021-12-06 14:03             ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-06 14:11               ` James Bottomley
2021-12-06 17:22                 ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-03 19:37         ` Casey Schaufler
2021-12-06 12:08           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-06 13:38             ` James Bottomley
2021-12-06 14:13               ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-06 15:44               ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-06 16:25                 ` James Bottomley
2021-12-06 14:11       ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2021-12-06 14:21         ` James Bottomley
2021-12-06 14:42           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-06 14:51             ` James Bottomley

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