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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	chrisw@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2 of 5] add can_dma/post_dma for direct IO
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:41:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <494777E7.8050305@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4946D501.4020109@codemonkey.ws>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> There are still some issues I'm not happy yet:
>> - handling of access violations: resolving should stop before the bad
>> page, the transfers should be done until that and then post error.
>> - bounce buffers needed for Lance byte swapping are not well designed 
>> (stack)
>>   
>
> I think you could approach the bouncing via a map/unmap API but I'm 
> not sure.  You would need a map() function to take a virtual address 
> which is sort of weird.  That would allow you to stack them in an 
> arbitrary fashion though.
>

I think that's broken.  iommus converts physical addresses to physical 
addresses (or bus addresses), possibly generating faults along the way, 
and depending on the iommu context.  map()/unmap() converts physical/bus 
addresses to virtual addresses, possibly bouncing.  Except for both 
doing conversions, they're very different.

>> This lead me to the thought that maybe we should not hide the bounce
>> buffer activity, but instead make it more explicit for the device that
>> needs bouncing. For the other device, the buffering or lack of it
>> should be opaque.
>>   
>
> I think that's reasonable.

I don't understand.  It's not a device that needs bouncing, it's a 
particular transfer.  This could be either due to the transfer targeting 
mmio, or due to the transfer requiring a transformation.

>
>> Also the virtual-to-physical address resolution API could be generic,
>> ie all resolver functions should take same parameters so that the
>> devices would not need to know the next higher level device.
>>   
>
> Yes.  I think this is key.  The only observation I would make is that 
> the resolution API should have some sort of release function (so 
> map/unmap, lock/unlock, whatever).

Also, in order to support chaining, the input and output parameters need 
to be the same (both sglists).

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	chrisw@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2 of 5] add can_dma/post_dma for direct IO
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:41:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <494777E7.8050305@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4946D501.4020109@codemonkey.ws>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> There are still some issues I'm not happy yet:
>> - handling of access violations: resolving should stop before the bad
>> page, the transfers should be done until that and then post error.
>> - bounce buffers needed for Lance byte swapping are not well designed 
>> (stack)
>>   
>
> I think you could approach the bouncing via a map/unmap API but I'm 
> not sure.  You would need a map() function to take a virtual address 
> which is sort of weird.  That would allow you to stack them in an 
> arbitrary fashion though.
>

I think that's broken.  iommus converts physical addresses to physical 
addresses (or bus addresses), possibly generating faults along the way, 
and depending on the iommu context.  map()/unmap() converts physical/bus 
addresses to virtual addresses, possibly bouncing.  Except for both 
doing conversions, they're very different.

>> This lead me to the thought that maybe we should not hide the bounce
>> buffer activity, but instead make it more explicit for the device that
>> needs bouncing. For the other device, the buffering or lack of it
>> should be opaque.
>>   
>
> I think that's reasonable.

I don't understand.  It's not a device that needs bouncing, it's a 
particular transfer.  This could be either due to the transfer targeting 
mmio, or due to the transfer requiring a transformation.

>
>> Also the virtual-to-physical address resolution API could be generic,
>> ie all resolver functions should take same parameters so that the
>> devices would not need to know the next higher level device.
>>   
>
> Yes.  I think this is key.  The only observation I would make is that 
> the resolution API should have some sort of release function (so 
> map/unmap, lock/unlock, whatever).

Also, in order to support chaining, the input and output parameters need 
to be the same (both sglists).

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-16  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-12 18:16 [PATCH 0 of 5] dma api v3 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [PATCH 1 of 5] fix cpu_physical_memory len Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 19:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:06     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:26     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 19:26       ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [PATCH 2 of 5] add can_dma/post_dma for direct IO Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 19:00   ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-12 19:00     ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-12 19:18     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:18       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 20:05       ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-12 20:10         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 20:10           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:15   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:15     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:37     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 19:37       ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 20:09       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 20:09         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 20:25       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-12 20:25         ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-12 19:39     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:39       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13  9:22       ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-13  9:22         ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-13 16:45         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 16:45           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 19:48           ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-13 19:48             ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-13 21:07             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 21:07               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14  6:03               ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14  6:03                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 19:10                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 19:10                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 19:49                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 19:49                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 23:08                     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 23:08                       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15  0:57                       ` Paul Brook
2008-12-15  0:57                         ` Paul Brook
2008-12-15  2:09                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15  2:09                           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15  6:23                           ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-15  6:23                             ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-15 18:35                       ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-15 18:35                         ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-15 22:06                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 22:06                           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-16  9:41                           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-12-16  9:41                             ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-16 16:55                             ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 16:55                               ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 17:09                               ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-16 17:09                                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-16 17:48                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-16 17:48                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-16 18:11                                   ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 18:11                                     ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 15:57                           ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 15:57                             ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 16:29                             ` Paul Brook
2008-12-16 16:29                               ` Paul Brook
2008-12-16 16:35                               ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 16:35                                 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-14 17:30       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-12-14 17:30         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-12-13 14:39     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-13 14:39       ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-13 16:46       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 16:46         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 16:53         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-13 16:53           ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-13 17:54           ` Andreas Färber
2008-12-13 21:11           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 21:11             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 16:47             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-14 16:47               ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-14 17:01               ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 17:01                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 17:15                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-14 17:15                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-14 19:59                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 19:59                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-12-22 16:44                     ` Ian Jackson
2008-12-22 16:44                       ` Ian Jackson
2008-12-22 19:44                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-23  0:03                         ` Thiemo Seufer
2008-12-23  1:02                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-23  1:02                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-23 17:31                           ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-23 17:31                             ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-22 19:46                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-05 10:27                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-01-05 10:27                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-13 22:47     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 22:47       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14  6:07       ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14  6:07         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [PATCH 3 of 5] rename dma.c to isa_dma.c Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [PATCH 4 of 5] dma api Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:55   ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-12 18:55     ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [PATCH 5 of 5] bdrv_aio_readv/writev Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli

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