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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Julian Pidancet <julian.pidancet@citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 12/15] xl: Add interface to handle multiple device models
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:06:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F6C7554.5080706@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1332503243.30916.38.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com>

On 03/23/2012 11:47 AM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 15:59 +0000, Julien Grall wrote:
>    
>> This patch add a structure with contain all informations about
>> a device model.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall<julien.grall@citrix.com>
>> ---
>>   tools/libxl/libxl.h          |    4 ++--
>>   tools/libxl/libxl_internal.h |    1 +
>>   tools/libxl/libxl_types.idl  |   11 +++++++++++
>>   3 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/tools/libxl/libxl.h b/tools/libxl/libxl.h
>> index 6b69030..a347a34 100644
>> --- a/tools/libxl/libxl.h
>> +++ b/tools/libxl/libxl.h
>> @@ -357,9 +357,9 @@ typedef struct {
>>   typedef struct {
>>       libxl_domain_create_info c_info;
>>       libxl_domain_build_info b_info;
>> -
>>       int num_disks, num_vifs, num_pcidevs, num_vfbs, num_vkbs;
>> -
>> +    int num_dms;
>> +    libxl_dm *dms;
>>       libxl_device_disk *disks;
>>       libxl_device_nic *vifs;
>>       libxl_device_pci *pcidevs;
>> diff --git a/tools/libxl/libxl_internal.h b/tools/libxl/libxl_internal.h
>> index e0a1070..247bdb9 100644
>> --- a/tools/libxl/libxl_internal.h
>> +++ b/tools/libxl/libxl_internal.h
>> @@ -767,6 +767,7 @@ typedef struct {
>>       char *dom_path; /* from libxl_malloc, only for libxl_spawner_record_pid */
>>       const char *pid_path; /* only for libxl_spawner_record_pid */
>>       int domid;
>> +    uint32_t dmid;
>>       libxl__spawn_starting *for_spawn;
>>   } libxl__spawner_starting;
>>
>> diff --git a/tools/libxl/libxl_types.idl b/tools/libxl/libxl_types.idl
>> index 413a1a6..7e48817 100644
>> --- a/tools/libxl/libxl_types.idl
>> +++ b/tools/libxl/libxl_types.idl
>> @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ libxl_domain_type = Enumeration("domain_type", [
>>   libxl_device_model_version = Enumeration("device_model_version", [
>>       (1, "QEMU_XEN_TRADITIONAL"), # Historical qemu-xen device model (qemu-dm)
>>       (2, "QEMU_XEN"),             # Upstream based qemu-xen device model
>> +    (3, "MULTIPLE_QEMU_XEN"),    # Handle multiple dm
>>      
> Isn't this implicit in the provision or otherwise of num_dms?
>    
Sorry but I don't understand the question.

>>       ])
>>
>>   libxl_console_type = Enumeration("console_type", [
>> @@ -224,6 +225,15 @@ libxl_domain_create_info = Struct("domain_create_info",[
>>
>>   MemKB = UInt(64, init_val = "LIBXL_MEMKB_DEFAULT")
>>
>> +libxl_dm = Struct("dm", [
>> +    ("id",           uint32),
>> +    ("name",         string),
>> +    ("path",         string),
>> +    ("pcis",         libxl_string_list),
>> +    ("mmios",        libxl_string_list),
>> +    ("pios",         libxl_string_list),
>> +    ])
>>      
> Why does the user of libxl need to know the id? can't that be internal
> to the library?
>    
Indeed, I will remove that.

> What are name and path? I guess path is something to do with xenstore
> but isn't that also internal to the libxl<->dm interface not something
> the caller of libxl need be aware of?
>    
The path is the binary path and the name is just a string append
to the log filename.

> I'm not sure what syntax "pcis", "mmios" and "pios" are going to have
> but I expect that this would be better represent as actual
> datastructures rather than encoding it as a string.
>
> How are toolstack supposed to know the values for e.g. pcis?
>    
For the moment pcis are describe as bdf for instance: 00:01.1
and mmios/pios as range (0x10-0x20 or just 0x19).
> All in all this seems like a very raw/low-level interface. Can libxl not
> expose something a bit more meaningful to toolstack authors? For example
> if we consider emulated disk controllers then perhaps the options are
>        * Handled by the "primary" dm
>        * Handled by a single disaggregated dm
>        * Handled by multiple disaggregated dm's (one per disk controller)
> Similarly for other classes or emulated device. Or maybe this should be
> a flag on those actual devices (e.g. in libxl_device_FOO)?
>    

I have not really ideas about that. The first solution that comes
in my mind is to bind each device with the device model name.

But in this case, we need to modify QEMU to launch only a subset
of hardware and find a way to said which QEMU will emulate the
"basic" hardware (keyboard, mouse, piix, ...).
Moreover, who will allocate the bdf ? The toolstack ?

>> +
>>   # Instances of libxl_file_reference contained in this struct which
>>   # have been mapped (with libxl_file_reference_map) will be unmapped
>>   # by libxl_domain_build/restore. If either of these are never called
>> @@ -289,6 +299,7 @@ libxl_domain_build_info = Struct("domain_build_info",[
>>                                          ("usbdevice",        string),
>>                                          ("soundhw",          string),
>>                                          ("xen_platform_pci", libxl_defbool),
>> +                                       ("max_servers",     integer),
>>      
> As a toolstack author how do I decide what number to use here?
>    
The max_servers variables is used to compute the additionnal special pages.
So the max_servers indicates the maximum servers that we want to spawn.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Julian Pidancet <julian.pidancet@citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 12/15] xl: Add interface to handle multiple device models
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:06:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F6C7554.5080706@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1332503243.30916.38.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com>

On 03/23/2012 11:47 AM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 15:59 +0000, Julien Grall wrote:
>    
>> This patch add a structure with contain all informations about
>> a device model.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall<julien.grall@citrix.com>
>> ---
>>   tools/libxl/libxl.h          |    4 ++--
>>   tools/libxl/libxl_internal.h |    1 +
>>   tools/libxl/libxl_types.idl  |   11 +++++++++++
>>   3 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/tools/libxl/libxl.h b/tools/libxl/libxl.h
>> index 6b69030..a347a34 100644
>> --- a/tools/libxl/libxl.h
>> +++ b/tools/libxl/libxl.h
>> @@ -357,9 +357,9 @@ typedef struct {
>>   typedef struct {
>>       libxl_domain_create_info c_info;
>>       libxl_domain_build_info b_info;
>> -
>>       int num_disks, num_vifs, num_pcidevs, num_vfbs, num_vkbs;
>> -
>> +    int num_dms;
>> +    libxl_dm *dms;
>>       libxl_device_disk *disks;
>>       libxl_device_nic *vifs;
>>       libxl_device_pci *pcidevs;
>> diff --git a/tools/libxl/libxl_internal.h b/tools/libxl/libxl_internal.h
>> index e0a1070..247bdb9 100644
>> --- a/tools/libxl/libxl_internal.h
>> +++ b/tools/libxl/libxl_internal.h
>> @@ -767,6 +767,7 @@ typedef struct {
>>       char *dom_path; /* from libxl_malloc, only for libxl_spawner_record_pid */
>>       const char *pid_path; /* only for libxl_spawner_record_pid */
>>       int domid;
>> +    uint32_t dmid;
>>       libxl__spawn_starting *for_spawn;
>>   } libxl__spawner_starting;
>>
>> diff --git a/tools/libxl/libxl_types.idl b/tools/libxl/libxl_types.idl
>> index 413a1a6..7e48817 100644
>> --- a/tools/libxl/libxl_types.idl
>> +++ b/tools/libxl/libxl_types.idl
>> @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ libxl_domain_type = Enumeration("domain_type", [
>>   libxl_device_model_version = Enumeration("device_model_version", [
>>       (1, "QEMU_XEN_TRADITIONAL"), # Historical qemu-xen device model (qemu-dm)
>>       (2, "QEMU_XEN"),             # Upstream based qemu-xen device model
>> +    (3, "MULTIPLE_QEMU_XEN"),    # Handle multiple dm
>>      
> Isn't this implicit in the provision or otherwise of num_dms?
>    
Sorry but I don't understand the question.

>>       ])
>>
>>   libxl_console_type = Enumeration("console_type", [
>> @@ -224,6 +225,15 @@ libxl_domain_create_info = Struct("domain_create_info",[
>>
>>   MemKB = UInt(64, init_val = "LIBXL_MEMKB_DEFAULT")
>>
>> +libxl_dm = Struct("dm", [
>> +    ("id",           uint32),
>> +    ("name",         string),
>> +    ("path",         string),
>> +    ("pcis",         libxl_string_list),
>> +    ("mmios",        libxl_string_list),
>> +    ("pios",         libxl_string_list),
>> +    ])
>>      
> Why does the user of libxl need to know the id? can't that be internal
> to the library?
>    
Indeed, I will remove that.

> What are name and path? I guess path is something to do with xenstore
> but isn't that also internal to the libxl<->dm interface not something
> the caller of libxl need be aware of?
>    
The path is the binary path and the name is just a string append
to the log filename.

> I'm not sure what syntax "pcis", "mmios" and "pios" are going to have
> but I expect that this would be better represent as actual
> datastructures rather than encoding it as a string.
>
> How are toolstack supposed to know the values for e.g. pcis?
>    
For the moment pcis are describe as bdf for instance: 00:01.1
and mmios/pios as range (0x10-0x20 or just 0x19).
> All in all this seems like a very raw/low-level interface. Can libxl not
> expose something a bit more meaningful to toolstack authors? For example
> if we consider emulated disk controllers then perhaps the options are
>        * Handled by the "primary" dm
>        * Handled by a single disaggregated dm
>        * Handled by multiple disaggregated dm's (one per disk controller)
> Similarly for other classes or emulated device. Or maybe this should be
> a flag on those actual devices (e.g. in libxl_device_FOO)?
>    

I have not really ideas about that. The first solution that comes
in my mind is to bind each device with the device model name.

But in this case, we need to modify QEMU to launch only a subset
of hardware and find a way to said which QEMU will emulate the
"basic" hardware (keyboard, mouse, piix, ...).
Moreover, who will allocate the bdf ? The toolstack ?

>> +
>>   # Instances of libxl_file_reference contained in this struct which
>>   # have been mapped (with libxl_file_reference_map) will be unmapped
>>   # by libxl_domain_build/restore. If either of these are never called
>> @@ -289,6 +299,7 @@ libxl_domain_build_info = Struct("domain_build_info",[
>>                                          ("usbdevice",        string),
>>                                          ("soundhw",          string),
>>                                          ("xen_platform_pci", libxl_defbool),
>> +                                       ("max_servers",     integer),
>>      
> As a toolstack author how do I decide what number to use here?
>    
The max_servers variables is used to compute the additionnal special pages.
So the max_servers indicates the maximum servers that we want to spawn.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-23 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-22 15:59 [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 00/15] QEMU disaggregation Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59 ` Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 01/15] hvm: Modify interface to support multiple ioreq server Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-23  8:18   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2012-03-23  8:18     ` Jan Beulich
2012-03-26 12:32     ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2012-03-26 12:53       ` Jan Beulich
2012-03-26 12:53       ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2012-03-26 12:32     ` Julien Grall
2012-03-23 11:33   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-03-23 11:33     ` Ian Campbell
2012-04-12 19:33     ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2012-04-02 17:12   ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Jackson
2012-04-02 17:12     ` Ian Jackson
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 02/15] hvm: Add functions to handle ioreq servers Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 03/15] hvm-pci: Handle PCI config space in Xen Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-23  8:29   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2012-03-23  8:29     ` Jan Beulich
2012-03-26 12:20     ` Julien Grall
2012-03-26 12:20     ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2012-03-26 12:52       ` Jan Beulich
2012-03-26 12:52       ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 04/15] hvm: Change initialization/destruction of an hvm Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 05/15] hvm: Modify hvm_op Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-04-26 17:50   ` Christian Limpach
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 06/15] hvm-io: IO refactoring with ioreq server Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 07/15] hvm-io: send invalidate map cache to each registered servers Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 08/15] hvm-io: Handle server in buffered IO Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 09/15] xc: Add the hypercall for multiple servers Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-23 11:37   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-03-23 11:37     ` Ian Campbell
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 10/15] xc: Add argument to allocate more special pages Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-23 11:39   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-03-23 11:39     ` Ian Campbell
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 11/15] xc: Fix python build Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-23 11:39   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-03-23 11:39     ` Ian Campbell
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 12/15] xl: Add interface to handle multiple device models Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-23 11:47   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-03-23 11:47     ` Ian Campbell
2012-03-23 13:06     ` Julien Grall [this message]
2012-03-23 13:06       ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2012-03-23 13:55       ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-03-23 13:55         ` Ian Campbell
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 13/15] xl-qmp: add device model id to qmp function Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 14/15] xl-parsing: Parse the new option device_models Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-04-02 17:11   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Jackson
2012-04-02 17:11     ` Ian Jackson
2012-04-03 10:05     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2012-04-03 10:05       ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-04-03 13:31       ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Jackson
2012-04-03 13:31         ` Ian Jackson
2012-04-03 13:54         ` [Qemu-devel] " Julien Grall
2012-04-03 13:54           ` Julien Grall
2012-04-03 14:02           ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Jackson
2012-04-03 14:02             ` Ian Jackson
2012-04-03 14:16             ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2012-04-03 14:16               ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-04-03 14:23               ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Jackson
2012-04-03 14:23                 ` Ian Jackson
2012-03-22 15:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 15/15] xl: Launch and destroy all device models Julien Grall
2012-03-22 15:59   ` Julien Grall
2012-03-22 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [XEN][RFC PATCH 00/15] QEMU disaggregation Tim Deegan
2012-03-22 16:59   ` Tim Deegan
2012-03-23 13:44   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2012-03-23 13:44     ` Julien Grall

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