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From: Marco Porsch <marco@cozybit.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: mcgrof@qca.qualcomm.com, jouni@qca.qualcomm.com,
	vthiagar@qca.qualcomm.com, senthilb@qca.qualcomm.com,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, devel@lists.open80211s.org,
	ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mac80211: move mesh sync beacon handler into neighbour_update
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:07:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <512243AB.6000801@cozybit.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1360936708.15040.18.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net>

Hi,

On 02/15/2013 02:58 PM, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 14:48 +0100, Marco Porsch wrote:
>
>>> I'm talking about this API:
>>>
>>> mesh_neighbour_update:
>>> ...
>>> 	tsf = drv_get_tsf()
>>> ...
>>> 	sync_ops->rx_bcn(..., tsf)
>>>
>>>
>>> mesh_sync_offset_rx_bcn(..., t_r):
>>> 	...
>>> 	if (have_better_timestamp)
>>> 		t_r = get_better_timestamp()
>>>
>>>
>>> You can hardly claim that's an intuitive API.
>>
>> Hm, alright. Just saying that ieee80211_mps_sta_tbtt_update still uses
>> the unchanged TSF value. But hey :)
>
> Well, that function doesn't exist in this patch...
>
>> What would be more favourable then?
>
> I guess you can tell I'm not in a good mood today. I think any use of
> get_tsf() for operation is a complete waste of time, there's no way you
> can get the timings correct. You could be preempted, and suddenly sleep
> for a few tens or hundreds milliseconds, so none of this makes any
> sense... To properly do it you have to do calculations in relative times
> and let the device apply them.

I don't get your last sentence here. Maybe you can elaborate?

Concerning timestamp vs. TSF usage; wow - I tested it when using the 
timestamp value for TBTT scheduling. Works fine. Works even better than 
TSF as it slightly reduces the measured wakeup overhead.

Hm, I was sure the TSF as in *now* would be more appropriate than the 
TSF at receipt time... But either way, if it works better and is less 
ugly, it is a win-win =)

I'll send an updated patch with the more intuitive API.

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From: Marco Porsch <marco@cozybit.com>
To: ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org
Subject: [ath9k-devel] [PATCH 1/3] mac80211: move mesh sync beacon handler into neighbour_update
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:07:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <512243AB.6000801@cozybit.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1360936708.15040.18.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net>

Hi,

On 02/15/2013 02:58 PM, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 14:48 +0100, Marco Porsch wrote:
>
>>> I'm talking about this API:
>>>
>>> mesh_neighbour_update:
>>> ...
>>> 	tsf = drv_get_tsf()
>>> ...
>>> 	sync_ops->rx_bcn(..., tsf)
>>>
>>>
>>> mesh_sync_offset_rx_bcn(..., t_r):
>>> 	...
>>> 	if (have_better_timestamp)
>>> 		t_r = get_better_timestamp()
>>>
>>>
>>> You can hardly claim that's an intuitive API.
>>
>> Hm, alright. Just saying that ieee80211_mps_sta_tbtt_update still uses
>> the unchanged TSF value. But hey :)
>
> Well, that function doesn't exist in this patch...
>
>> What would be more favourable then?
>
> I guess you can tell I'm not in a good mood today. I think any use of
> get_tsf() for operation is a complete waste of time, there's no way you
> can get the timings correct. You could be preempted, and suddenly sleep
> for a few tens or hundreds milliseconds, so none of this makes any
> sense... To properly do it you have to do calculations in relative times
> and let the device apply them.

I don't get your last sentence here. Maybe you can elaborate?

Concerning timestamp vs. TSF usage; wow - I tested it when using the 
timestamp value for TBTT scheduling. Works fine. Works even better than 
TSF as it slightly reduces the measured wakeup overhead.

Hm, I was sure the TSF as in *now* would be more appropriate than the 
TSF at receipt time... But either way, if it works better and is less 
ugly, it is a win-win =)

I'll send an updated patch with the more intuitive API.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-18 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-15 11:40 [PATCH 1/3] mac80211: move mesh sync beacon handler into neighbour_update Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 11:40 ` [ath9k-devel] " Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 11:40 ` [PATCH 2/3] mac80211: mesh power save doze scheduling Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 11:40   ` [ath9k-devel] " Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 11:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] ath9k: mesh powersave support Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 11:40   ` [ath9k-devel] " Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 12:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] mac80211: move mesh sync beacon handler into neighbour_update Johannes Berg
2013-02-15 12:14   ` [ath9k-devel] " Johannes Berg
2013-02-15 12:40   ` Bob Copeland
2013-02-15 12:40     ` [ath9k-devel] " Bob Copeland
2013-02-15 12:42     ` Bob Copeland
2013-02-15 12:42       ` [ath9k-devel] " Bob Copeland
2013-02-15 13:30       ` Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 13:30         ` [ath9k-devel] " Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 12:40   ` marco
2013-02-15 12:40     ` [ath9k-devel] " marco at cozybit.com
2013-02-15 12:46     ` Johannes Berg
2013-02-15 12:46       ` [ath9k-devel] " Johannes Berg
2013-02-15 13:31       ` Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 13:31         ` [ath9k-devel] " Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 13:37         ` Johannes Berg
2013-02-15 13:37           ` [ath9k-devel] " Johannes Berg
2013-02-15 13:48           ` Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 13:48             ` [ath9k-devel] " Marco Porsch
2013-02-15 13:58             ` Johannes Berg
2013-02-15 13:58               ` [ath9k-devel] " Johannes Berg
2013-02-18 15:07               ` Marco Porsch [this message]
2013-02-18 15:07                 ` Marco Porsch
2013-02-18 15:20                 ` Johannes Berg
2013-02-18 15:20                   ` [ath9k-devel] " Johannes Berg

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