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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
Cc: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim@samsung.com>,
	Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>,
	Naveen Krishna Chatradhi <ch.naveen@samsung.com>,
	grant.likely@secretlab.ca, yuvaraj.cd@gmail.com,
	ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk, u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de,
	broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com,
	girish.shivananjappa@linaro.org, bhushan.r@samsung.com,
	sreekumar.c@samsung.com, prashanth.g@samsung.com, olof@lixom.net,
	djkurtz@chromium.org, linux@roeck-us.net,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	"Ben Dooks (embedded platforms)" <ben-linux@fluff.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
	Peter Korsgaard <peter.korsgaard@barco.com>,
	Guenter Roeck <guenter.roeck@ericsson.com>,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] i2c: mux: Add i2c-arb-gpio-challenge 'mux' driver
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:42:14 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <516D7156.3050807@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130416093633.GC16978@the-dreams.de>

On 04/16/2013 03:36 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> Doug,
> 
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:34:28PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
>> The i2c-arb-gpio-challenge driver implements an I2C arbitration scheme
>> where masters need to claim the bus with a GPIO before they can start
>> a transcation.  This should generally only be used when standard I2C
>> multimaster isn't appropriate for some reason (errata/bugs).
>>
>> This driver is based on code that Simon Glass added to the i2c-s3c2410
>> driver in the Chrome OS kernel 3.4 tree.  The current incarnation as a
>> mux driver is as suggested by Grant Likely.  See
>> <https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1877311/> for some history.

>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/i2c/i2c-arb-gpio-challenge.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/i2c/i2c-arb-gpio-challenge.txt

>> +GPIO-based I2C Arbitration
>> +==========================
>> +This uses GPIO lines to arbitrate who is the master of an I2C bus in a
>> +multimaster situation.
> 
> "uses GPIO lines and a challange & response mechanism" or something like
> that. There might be other GPIO based arbitrations in the future (though
> I hope there won't).

The existing text appears clearer to me; this document should spell out
the exact details of the protocol in later paragraphs, so there's no
need to try and spell it out here.

>> +- their-claim-gpios: The GPIOs that the other sides use the claim the bus.
>> +  Note that some implementations may only support a single other master.
> 
> Stronger? "Currently, only one other master is supported"?

The DT binding documentation, which should be OS-/driver-agnostic,
should describe the binding, not the implementation. The limitation that
Linux imposes is OS-specific and hence should not be mentioned here as
an absolute, or perhaps even at all.

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From: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Doug Anderson <dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	Naveen Krishna Chatradhi
	<ch.naveen-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org,
	yuvaraj.cd-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	ben.dooks-4yDnlxn2s6sWdaTGBSpHTA@public.gmane.org,
	u.kleine-koenig-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org,
	broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org,
	girish.shivananjappa-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	bhushan.r-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
	sreekumar.c-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
	prashanth.g-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
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	djkurtz-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org,
	linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Landley <rob-VoJi6FS/r0vR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Ben Dooks (embedded platforms)"
	<ben-linux-elnMNo+KYs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jean Delvare <khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Korsgaard
	<peter.korsgaard-ob4gmnvZ1/cAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Guenter Roeck
	<guenter.roeck-IzeFyvvaP7pWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] i2c: mux: Add i2c-arb-gpio-challenge 'mux' driver
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:42:14 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <516D7156.3050807@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130416093633.GC16978-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>

On 04/16/2013 03:36 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> Doug,
> 
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:34:28PM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
>> The i2c-arb-gpio-challenge driver implements an I2C arbitration scheme
>> where masters need to claim the bus with a GPIO before they can start
>> a transcation.  This should generally only be used when standard I2C
>> multimaster isn't appropriate for some reason (errata/bugs).
>>
>> This driver is based on code that Simon Glass added to the i2c-s3c2410
>> driver in the Chrome OS kernel 3.4 tree.  The current incarnation as a
>> mux driver is as suggested by Grant Likely.  See
>> <https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1877311/> for some history.

>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/i2c/i2c-arb-gpio-challenge.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/i2c/i2c-arb-gpio-challenge.txt

>> +GPIO-based I2C Arbitration
>> +==========================
>> +This uses GPIO lines to arbitrate who is the master of an I2C bus in a
>> +multimaster situation.
> 
> "uses GPIO lines and a challange & response mechanism" or something like
> that. There might be other GPIO based arbitrations in the future (though
> I hope there won't).

The existing text appears clearer to me; this document should spell out
the exact details of the protocol in later paragraphs, so there's no
need to try and spell it out here.

>> +- their-claim-gpios: The GPIOs that the other sides use the claim the bus.
>> +  Note that some implementations may only support a single other master.
> 
> Stronger? "Currently, only one other master is supported"?

The DT binding documentation, which should be OS-/driver-agnostic,
should describe the binding, not the implementation. The limitation that
Linux imposes is OS-specific and hence should not be mentioned here as
an absolute, or perhaps even at all.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-16 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-15  0:21 [PATCH v2 1/3] i2c: mux: Add i2c-arbitrator-cros-ec 'mux' driver Doug Anderson
2013-02-15  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] ARM: dts: Add i2c-arbitrator bus for exynos5250-snow Doug Anderson
2013-02-15  0:21   ` Doug Anderson
2013-02-15  0:21 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] ARM: dts: Add sbs-battery " Doug Anderson
2013-02-15  0:21   ` Doug Anderson
2013-02-15 16:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] i2c: mux: Add i2c-arbitrator-cros-ec 'mux' driver Stephen Warren
2013-02-15 16:39   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]   ` <511E64C0.9090500-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-15 17:25     ` Doug Anderson
     [not found]       ` <CAD=FV=W9WwSsid_KqtDRmAkFXnneRXu5zcakDB3t4hLhOpuCtw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-15 17:38         ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-15 17:44           ` Mark Brown
2013-02-15 17:44             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20130215174425.GF22283-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-15 18:57               ` Doug Anderson
2013-02-15 19:46 ` [PATCH v3 " Doug Anderson
2013-02-15 19:46   ` Doug Anderson
2013-02-15 19:46   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] ARM: dts: Add i2c-arbitrator bus for exynos5250-snow Doug Anderson
2013-02-15 19:46     ` Doug Anderson
2013-03-05 23:48     ` Naveen Krishna Ch
2013-03-05 23:48       ` Naveen Krishna Ch
2013-03-13  7:30       ` Kukjin Kim
2013-03-13  7:30         ` Kukjin Kim
2013-03-13 15:14         ` Doug Anderson
2013-03-13 15:14           ` Doug Anderson
2013-02-15 19:46   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] ARM: dts: Add sbs-battery " Doug Anderson
2013-02-15 19:46     ` Doug Anderson
2013-03-05 23:49     ` Naveen Krishna Ch
2013-03-05 23:49       ` Naveen Krishna Ch
2013-02-15 21:31   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] i2c: mux: Add i2c-arbitrator-cros-ec 'mux' driver Stephen Warren
2013-03-11 16:05   ` Doug Anderson
2013-03-11 16:05     ` Doug Anderson
2013-03-13 16:36   ` [PATCH v4 " Doug Anderson
2013-03-13 16:36     ` Doug Anderson
2013-03-13 16:36     ` [PATCH v4 2/3] ARM: dts: Add i2c-arbitrator bus for exynos5250-snow Doug Anderson
2013-03-13 16:36       ` Doug Anderson
2013-03-13 16:36     ` [PATCH v4 3/3] ARM: dts: Add sbs-battery " Doug Anderson
2013-03-13 16:36       ` Doug Anderson
2013-03-13 16:53     ` [PATCH v4 1/3] i2c: mux: Add i2c-arbitrator-cros-ec 'mux' driver Stephen Warren
2013-03-13 16:53       ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-13 16:59       ` Doug Anderson
2013-03-13 16:59         ` Doug Anderson
2013-03-13 17:29         ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-13 17:29           ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-08 10:26     ` Wolfram Sang
2013-04-08 10:26       ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]       ` <20130408102617.GC3496-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09 20:26         ` Doug Anderson
     [not found]     ` <1363192583-26363-1-git-send-email-dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-26 20:23       ` Doug Anderson
     [not found]         ` <20130329115821.GC6359@the-dreams.de>
     [not found]           ` <20130329115821.GC6359-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29 18:28             ` Doug Anderson
     [not found]               ` <20130403191938.GA7875@the-dreams.de>
     [not found]                 ` <20130403191938.GA7875-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-05 19:37                   ` Simon Glass
2013-04-05 20:03                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-05 20:03                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-06 18:30                       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-04-06 20:11                         ` Wolfram Sang
2013-04-07 18:10                           ` Guenter Roeck
2013-04-08  9:55                             ` Wolfram Sang
2013-04-08  9:55                               ` Wolfram Sang
2013-04-09 20:12       ` [PATCH v5 1/3] i2c: mux: Add i2c-arb-gpio-challenge " Doug Anderson
2013-04-09 20:12         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] ARM: dts: Add i2c-arbitrator bus for exynos5250-snow Doug Anderson
2013-04-09 20:12           ` Doug Anderson
2013-04-09 20:12         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] ARM: dts: Add sbs-battery " Doug Anderson
2013-04-09 20:12           ` Doug Anderson
2013-04-09 21:34     ` [PATCH v5 1/3] i2c: mux: Add i2c-arb-gpio-challenge 'mux' driver Doug Anderson
2013-04-09 21:34       ` Doug Anderson
2013-04-09 21:34       ` [PATCH v5 2/3] ARM: dts: Add i2c-arbitrator bus for exynos5250-snow Doug Anderson
2013-04-09 21:34         ` Doug Anderson
2013-04-10 10:59         ` Kukjin Kim
2013-04-10 10:59           ` Kukjin Kim
2013-04-10 11:02           ` Wolfram Sang
2013-04-10 11:02             ` Wolfram Sang
2013-04-10 14:12             ` Kukjin Kim
2013-04-10 14:12               ` Kukjin Kim
2013-04-09 21:34       ` [PATCH v5 3/3] ARM: dts: Add sbs-battery " Doug Anderson
2013-04-09 21:34         ` Doug Anderson
2013-04-16  9:36       ` [PATCH v5 1/3] i2c: mux: Add i2c-arb-gpio-challenge 'mux' driver Wolfram Sang
2013-04-16  9:36         ` Wolfram Sang
2013-04-16  9:44         ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-04-16  9:44           ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-04-16 13:38         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-04-16 15:42         ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-04-16 15:42           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <20130416093633.GC16978-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-16 16:25           ` Doug Anderson
2013-04-16 16:29       ` [PATCH v6 " Doug Anderson
2013-04-16 16:29         ` [PATCH v6 2/3] ARM: dts: Add i2c-arbitrator bus for exynos5250-snow Doug Anderson
2013-04-16 16:29           ` Doug Anderson
2013-04-16 16:35           ` Olof Johansson
2013-04-16 16:35             ` Olof Johansson
2013-04-16 16:29         ` [PATCH v6 3/3] ARM: dts: Add sbs-battery " Doug Anderson
2013-04-16 16:29           ` Doug Anderson
2013-04-16 16:36           ` Olof Johansson
2013-04-16 16:36             ` Olof Johansson
2013-04-16 16:34         ` [PATCH v6 1/3] i2c: mux: Add i2c-arb-gpio-challenge 'mux' driver Olof Johansson
2013-04-17  9:34           ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]             ` <20130417093424.GC4508-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-17 13:57               ` Olof Johansson
2013-04-17 16:35               ` Olof Johansson
2013-04-16 16:45         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-04-16 16:45           ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]           ` <20130416164512.GB27488-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-16 16:51             ` Doug Anderson
2013-04-17  9:32         ` Wolfram Sang

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