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From: Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Mans Rullgard <mans@mansr.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	cpufreq <cpufreq@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: schedule_timeout sleeps too long after dividing CPU frequency
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 18:51:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <555380F8.5050306@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150512155004.GP2067@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

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On 12/05/2015 17:50, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 05:14:15PM +0200, Mason wrote:
>> This ties in to another thread I started in LAKML:
>> ("High-resolution timers not supported when using smp_twd on Cortex A9")
>>
>> $ git show 5388a6b2 arch/arm/kernel/smp_twd.c
>> commit 5388a6b266e9c3357353332ba0cd5549082887f1
>> Author: Russell King <rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk>
>> Date:   Mon Jul 26 13:19:43 2010 +0100
>>
>>     ARM: SMP: Always enable clock event broadcast support
>>     
>>     The TWD local timers are unable to wake up the CPU when it is placed
>>     into a low power mode, eg. C3.  Therefore, we need to adapt things
>>     such that the TWD code can cope with this.
>>     
>>     We do this by always providing a broadcast tick function, and marking
>>     the fact that the TWD local timer will stop in low power modes.  This
>>     means that when the CPU is placed into a low power mode, the core
>>     timer code marks this fact, and allows an IPI to be given to the core.
>>
>> This mentions a "broadcast tick function" (of which I know nothing).
>> Is this what you're referring to?
> 
> No.  This has nothing to do with low power modes.
> 
> How this works depends on how your kernel is configured, but essentially
> it's something like this:
> 
> * The CPU which will be idling sets its local timer to wake up after N
>   counter cycles, where N is calculated from the timer frequency.
> 
> * When the local timer fires, the CPU is kicked out of the idle loop, and
>   it reads the current system time.  If the current system time indicates
>   that the software timer set in schedule_timeout() has fired, that
>   software timer fires.
> 
> If the local timer changes frequency without the idling CPU being woken
> up, then the problem you're referring to can happen.
> 
> As you're not giving much information about your system (including
> indicating where we might see some source code) we're not able to help
> more than providing above descriptions.  Maybe if you posted your
> patches so far to support the project you're working on, we could
> provide better answers.

$ git diff v3.14.41 HEAD >tango.patch && xz tango.patch

I don't understand the IRQ-related part yet
( arch/arm/mach-tangox/irq.c and drivers/irqchip/irq-gic.c )

If anyone spots the problem, that would make my day.

I tested with a loadable module whose init function is

static int __init ts_init(void)
{
	long res;
	printk("ABOUT TO SLEEP\n");
	set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
	res = schedule_timeout(HZ);
	printk("WAKE UP res=%ld\n", res);
	return 0;
}

Loading the module, with cpufreq divided by 9, prints:
[ 1738.962982] ABOUT TO SLEEP
[ 1747.956191] WAKE UP res=0

Regards.


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From: slash.tmp@free.fr (Mason)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: schedule_timeout sleeps too long after dividing CPU frequency
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 18:51:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <555380F8.5050306@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150512155004.GP2067@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 12/05/2015 17:50, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 05:14:15PM +0200, Mason wrote:
>> This ties in to another thread I started in LAKML:
>> ("High-resolution timers not supported when using smp_twd on Cortex A9")
>>
>> $ git show 5388a6b2 arch/arm/kernel/smp_twd.c
>> commit 5388a6b266e9c3357353332ba0cd5549082887f1
>> Author: Russell King <rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk>
>> Date:   Mon Jul 26 13:19:43 2010 +0100
>>
>>     ARM: SMP: Always enable clock event broadcast support
>>     
>>     The TWD local timers are unable to wake up the CPU when it is placed
>>     into a low power mode, eg. C3.  Therefore, we need to adapt things
>>     such that the TWD code can cope with this.
>>     
>>     We do this by always providing a broadcast tick function, and marking
>>     the fact that the TWD local timer will stop in low power modes.  This
>>     means that when the CPU is placed into a low power mode, the core
>>     timer code marks this fact, and allows an IPI to be given to the core.
>>
>> This mentions a "broadcast tick function" (of which I know nothing).
>> Is this what you're referring to?
> 
> No.  This has nothing to do with low power modes.
> 
> How this works depends on how your kernel is configured, but essentially
> it's something like this:
> 
> * The CPU which will be idling sets its local timer to wake up after N
>   counter cycles, where N is calculated from the timer frequency.
> 
> * When the local timer fires, the CPU is kicked out of the idle loop, and
>   it reads the current system time.  If the current system time indicates
>   that the software timer set in schedule_timeout() has fired, that
>   software timer fires.
> 
> If the local timer changes frequency without the idling CPU being woken
> up, then the problem you're referring to can happen.
> 
> As you're not giving much information about your system (including
> indicating where we might see some source code) we're not able to help
> more than providing above descriptions.  Maybe if you posted your
> patches so far to support the project you're working on, we could
> provide better answers.

$ git diff v3.14.41 HEAD >tango.patch && xz tango.patch

I don't understand the IRQ-related part yet
( arch/arm/mach-tangox/irq.c and drivers/irqchip/irq-gic.c )

If anyone spots the problem, that would make my day.

I tested with a loadable module whose init function is

static int __init ts_init(void)
{
	long res;
	printk("ABOUT TO SLEEP\n");
	set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
	res = schedule_timeout(HZ);
	printk("WAKE UP res=%ld\n", res);
	return 0;
}

Loading the module, with cpufreq divided by 9, prints:
[ 1738.962982] ABOUT TO SLEEP
[ 1747.956191] WAKE UP res=0

Regards.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-13 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-12 14:32 schedule_timeout sleeps too long after dividing CPU frequency Mason
2015-05-12 14:32 ` Mason
2015-05-12 14:46 ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-12 14:46   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-12 15:14   ` Mason
2015-05-12 15:14     ` Mason
2015-05-12 15:50     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-12 15:50       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-12 16:14       ` Mason
2015-05-12 16:14         ` Mason
2015-05-13 16:51       ` Mason [this message]
2015-05-13 16:51         ` Mason
2015-05-14  2:13         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-14  2:13           ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-14 11:22           ` Mason
2015-05-14 11:22             ` Mason
2015-05-14 11:54             ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-14 11:54               ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-14 13:06               ` Mason
2015-05-14 13:06                 ` Mason
2015-05-14 13:53                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-14 13:53                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-14 14:51                   ` Mason
2015-05-14 14:51                     ` Mason
2015-05-14 13:59                 ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-14 13:59                   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-14 13:59                   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-14 14:38                   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-14 14:38                     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-14 14:42                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-14 14:42                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-15  9:29                     ` Mason
2015-05-15  9:29                       ` Mason
2015-05-15  9:51                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-15  9:51                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-15 10:01                         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-15 10:01                           ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-15 10:36                         ` Mason
2015-05-15 10:36                           ` Mason
2015-05-15 11:58                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-15 11:58                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-15 12:45                             ` Mason
2015-05-15 12:45                               ` Mason
2015-05-15 13:15                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-15 13:15                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-15 13:58                                 ` Mason
2015-05-15 18:35                                   ` Mason
2015-05-18 11:24                                     ` Mason
2015-05-18 11:54                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-20 16:21                                         ` Mason
2015-05-20 18:50                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-20 19:34                                             ` Mason
2015-05-20 20:14                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-20 20:41                                                 ` Mason
2015-05-20 20:52                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-20 21:56                                                     ` Mason
2015-05-20 22:18                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-21 12:35                                                         ` Mason
2015-05-20 23:14                                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-21  9:56                                                         ` Mason
2015-05-21 10:20                                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-14 14:48                   ` Mason
2015-05-14 14:48                     ` Mason
2015-05-15  4:16                     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-15  4:16                       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-15  5:07                       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-15  5:07                         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-05-15  9:00                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-15  9:00                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-15  9:21                       ` Mason
2015-05-15  9:21                         ` Mason
2015-05-15 10:11                       ` Mason
2015-05-15 10:11                         ` Mason
2015-05-12 15:23 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-12 15:23   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-05-12 16:03   ` Mason
2015-05-12 16:03     ` Mason

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