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From: Tushar Sugandhi <tusharsu@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, agk@redhat.com, snitzer@redhat.com
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, nramas@linux.microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] dm: add documentation for IMA measurement support
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 00:25:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b81b92f-7d7b-d198-5056-bab1bcbac522@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <205b5336d60aee6b3f33ad67b2d0250e104d6779.camel@linux.ibm.com>

Hi Mimi,

On 7/20/21 7:33 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> Hi Tushar, Mike,
> 
> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 17:49 -0700, Tushar Sugandhi wrote:
>> +Then IMA ASCII measurement log has the following format:
>> +PCR TEMPLATE_DIGEST TEMPLATE ALG:EVENT_DIGEST EVENT_NAME EVENT_DATA
>> +
>> +PCR := Platform Configuration Register, in which the values are registered.
>> +       This is applicable if TPM chip is in use.
>> +TEMPLATE_DIGEST := Template digest of the IMA record.
> 
> ^TEMPLATE_DATA_DIGEST
> 
Will do.

>> +TEMPLATE := Template that registered the integrity value (e.g. ima-buf).
> 
> ^TEMPLATE_NAME
>
Will do.

> The template data format consists of:
>> +ALG:EVENT_DIGEST = Algorithm to compute event digest, followed by digest of event data
>> +EVENT_NAME := Description of the event (e.g. 'table_load').
>> +EVENT_DATA := The event data to be measured.
> 
Thanks. I will add this to the dm-ima documentation.

> Missing from the document is a way of validating the template data.
> For example, in the original case of file measurements, the template
> data contains the file hash, which can be recalculated or verified
> against an allow list.
> 
> Other than re-calculating the template data digest based on the
> template data, and verifying it against the template data digest in the
> measurement list, would an attestation server be able to verify the
> template data itself?
>
Yes.
In the context of device-mapper, EVENT_DATA for 'table_load' would
contain the key-value pairs for various targets in the table
(crypt, verity, integrity etc.) which the attestation servers
should be able to verify against the allowed/expected
key-value pairs specified in the attestation policy.

To avoid bloating the IMA log with same data from table_load again,
we only measure hash of the loaded table in the EVENT_DATA -
when there is a state change for DM device.
e.g. when EVENT_NAME is 'device_resume', 'table_clear',
'device_remove' etc.

Since the table clear-text is already present in the EVENT_DATA
buffer for 'table_load', and is available to attestation servers,
verifying the corresponding hash values in the
EVENT_DATA in the subsequent DM events should be possible for
the attestation servers.

Please let us know if you need further info.

Thanks,
Tushar

> thanks,
> 
> Mimi
> 

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From: Tushar Sugandhi <tusharsu@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, agk@redhat.com, snitzer@redhat.com
Cc: nramas@linux.microsoft.com, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 7/7] dm: add documentation for IMA measurement support
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 00:25:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b81b92f-7d7b-d198-5056-bab1bcbac522@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <205b5336d60aee6b3f33ad67b2d0250e104d6779.camel@linux.ibm.com>

Hi Mimi,

On 7/20/21 7:33 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> Hi Tushar, Mike,
> 
> On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 17:49 -0700, Tushar Sugandhi wrote:
>> +Then IMA ASCII measurement log has the following format:
>> +PCR TEMPLATE_DIGEST TEMPLATE ALG:EVENT_DIGEST EVENT_NAME EVENT_DATA
>> +
>> +PCR := Platform Configuration Register, in which the values are registered.
>> +       This is applicable if TPM chip is in use.
>> +TEMPLATE_DIGEST := Template digest of the IMA record.
> 
> ^TEMPLATE_DATA_DIGEST
> 
Will do.

>> +TEMPLATE := Template that registered the integrity value (e.g. ima-buf).
> 
> ^TEMPLATE_NAME
>
Will do.

> The template data format consists of:
>> +ALG:EVENT_DIGEST = Algorithm to compute event digest, followed by digest of event data
>> +EVENT_NAME := Description of the event (e.g. 'table_load').
>> +EVENT_DATA := The event data to be measured.
> 
Thanks. I will add this to the dm-ima documentation.

> Missing from the document is a way of validating the template data.
> For example, in the original case of file measurements, the template
> data contains the file hash, which can be recalculated or verified
> against an allow list.
> 
> Other than re-calculating the template data digest based on the
> template data, and verifying it against the template data digest in the
> measurement list, would an attestation server be able to verify the
> template data itself?
>
Yes.
In the context of device-mapper, EVENT_DATA for 'table_load' would
contain the key-value pairs for various targets in the table
(crypt, verity, integrity etc.) which the attestation servers
should be able to verify against the allowed/expected
key-value pairs specified in the attestation policy.

To avoid bloating the IMA log with same data from table_load again,
we only measure hash of the loaded table in the EVENT_DATA -
when there is a state change for DM device.
e.g. when EVENT_NAME is 'device_resume', 'table_clear',
'device_remove' etc.

Since the table clear-text is already present in the EVENT_DATA
buffer for 'table_load', and is available to attestation servers,
verifying the corresponding hash values in the
EVENT_DATA in the subsequent DM events should be possible for
the attestation servers.

Please let us know if you need further info.

Thanks,
Tushar

> thanks,
> 
> Mimi
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-24  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-13  0:48 [PATCH 0/7] device mapper target measurements using IMA Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:48 ` [dm-devel] " Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:48 ` [PATCH 1/7] dm: measure data on table load Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:48   ` [dm-devel] " Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-21  2:12   ` Mimi Zohar
2021-07-21  2:12     ` [dm-devel] " Mimi Zohar
2021-07-21 15:42     ` Mike Snitzer
2021-07-21 15:42       ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2021-07-21 16:07       ` Mimi Zohar
2021-07-21 16:07         ` [dm-devel] " Mimi Zohar
2021-07-21 21:17         ` Mimi Zohar
2021-07-21 21:17           ` [dm-devel] " Mimi Zohar
2021-07-29 19:58           ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-29 19:58             ` [dm-devel] " Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:48 ` [PATCH 2/7] dm: measure data on device resume Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:48   ` [dm-devel] " Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:49 ` [PATCH 3/7] dm: measure data on device remove Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:49   ` [dm-devel] " Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:49 ` [PATCH 4/7] dm: measure data on table clear Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:49   ` [dm-devel] " Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:49 ` [PATCH 5/7] dm: measure data on device rename Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:49   ` [dm-devel] " Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:49 ` [PATCH 6/7] dm: update target specific status functions to measure data Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:49   ` [dm-devel] " Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  1:06   ` Alasdair G Kergon
2021-07-13  1:06     ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2021-07-14 20:23     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-14 20:23       ` [dm-devel] " Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:49 ` [PATCH 7/7] dm: add documentation for IMA measurement support Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-13  0:49   ` [dm-devel] " Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-21  2:33   ` Mimi Zohar
2021-07-21  2:33     ` [dm-devel] " Mimi Zohar
2021-07-24  7:25     ` Tushar Sugandhi [this message]
2021-07-24  7:25       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-26 16:33       ` Mimi Zohar
2021-07-26 16:33         ` [dm-devel] " Mimi Zohar
2021-07-26 18:28         ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-26 18:28           ` [dm-devel] " Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-14 11:32 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 0/7] device mapper target measurements using IMA Thore Sommer
2021-07-14 11:32   ` Thore Sommer
2021-07-14 20:20   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-14 20:20     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-27 10:18     ` Thore Sommer
2021-07-27 10:18       ` Thore Sommer
2021-07-27 20:33       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2021-07-27 20:33         ` Alasdair G Kergon
2021-07-28  3:10         ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-28  3:10           ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-28 17:14           ` Thore Sommer
2021-07-28 17:14             ` Thore Sommer
2021-07-29 17:32             ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-29 17:32               ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-28 17:34         ` Thore Sommer
2021-07-28 17:34           ` Thore Sommer
2021-07-28 21:33       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2021-07-28 21:33         ` Alasdair G Kergon
2021-08-02 10:45         ` Thore Sommer
2021-08-02 10:45           ` Thore Sommer
2021-07-29 19:24       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-07-29 19:24         ` Tushar Sugandhi
2021-08-02 10:38         ` Thore Sommer
2021-08-02 10:38           ` Thore Sommer
2021-07-20 21:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2021-07-20 21:27   ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2021-07-24  6:57   ` Tushar Sugandhi

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