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From: "Stéphane LOS" <slos@hilscher.com>
To: "Xenomai@xenomai.org" <Xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:00:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9698a6ee-decf-f368-d6fe-47e4d67868ce@hilscher.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfe038bb-e379-bc90-5cf7-ecddce9ed887@hilscher.com>

Hi,

Wouldn't integrating both projects make sense ?

It seems both share a significant amount of work and similar lack of 
resources.

Sorry, talking about the "Real Time Linux" project and "Xenomai"...

And sorry for the noise added automagically to my emails. :-(
I should use some other mail account.

Best Regards,
Cordialement,

Stéphane LOS
slos@hilscher.com
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Le 24/11/2017 à 09:52, Stéphane LOS a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Wouldn't integrating both projects make sense ?
>
> It seems both share a significant amount of work and similar lack of 
> resources.
>
> Best Regards,
> Cordialement,
>
> Stéphane LOS
> slos@hilscher.com
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>
> Le 23/11/2017 à 21:45, Philippe Gerum a écrit :
>> On 11/22/2017 09:26 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> On 2017-11-21 18:11, Philippe Gerum wrote:
>>>> So, let's talk about the elephant in the room: the current 
>>>> situation of
>>>> the Xenomai project is not viable in the long run. I can only 
>>>> encourage
>>>> people who feel concerned about it to discuss openly the practical 
>>>> steps
>>>> to best address this challenge.
>>> Thanks for bringing this frankly on the table! For those who follow the
>>> project, it's likely no news. So we were working on this issue also
>>> internally, with users of Xenomai inside Siemens. And we have the
>>> backing to enhance our involvement in upstream work. Right now we are
>>> working on making this concrete.
>>>
>>> There are many areas where contributions can be beneficial for the
>>> project and its community, and many do not require deepest 
>>> understanding
>>> of the core, like around CI, test automation, distro packaging,
>>> documentation, or user support. But some essential elements in my 
>>> eyes are
>>>
>>>   - building up a core team of kernel maintainers for Cobalt
>>>
>>>   - offloading work from the shoulders of our extremely valuable
>>>     maintainer
>>>
>>> The second part will be achieved to a certain degree by the first 
>>> one as
>>> Philippe can probably confirm.
>> Yes, extending "Cobalt" to the pipeline. A significant portion of the
>> overall maintenance involves the I-pipe. Hence the work on rethinking
>> how the interrupt pipeline is integrated into the Linux kernel, how we
>> can make the former a regular feature of the latter instead of an
>> add-on, with the goal of simplifying the maintenance, but also making
>> the whole thing way more natural, easier to grasp.
>>
>



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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-24  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-21 17:11 [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room Philippe Gerum
2017-11-21 17:26 ` Greg Gallagher
2017-11-22 15:24   ` Philippe Gerum
2017-11-21 19:27 ` Auel, Kendall
2017-11-22 15:32   ` Philippe Gerum
2017-11-22 20:27     ` Jan Kiszka
2017-11-23 11:42       ` [Xenomai] [RFC] Service hosting for Xenomai Philippe Gerum
2017-11-23 12:38         ` Jorge Ramirez
2017-11-23 20:35           ` Lennart Sorensen
2017-11-26 17:49             ` Jorge Ramirez
2017-11-27 15:56               ` Jorge Ramirez
2017-11-27 15:57               ` Lennart Sorensen
2017-11-27 20:47             ` Wolfgang Denk
2017-11-23 20:36           ` Philippe Gerum
2017-11-23 22:00             ` Jorge Ramirez
2017-11-23 12:52         ` Henning Schild
2017-11-23 13:18           ` Jorge Ramirez
2017-11-23 19:39             ` Jan Kiszka
2017-11-26 17:40               ` Jorge Ramirez
2017-11-27 20:41         ` Wolfgang Denk
2017-11-27 21:44           ` Philippe Gerum
2017-11-28  8:47             ` Henning Schild
2017-11-23 20:27       ` [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room Philippe Gerum
2017-11-21 19:54 ` Dmitriy Cherkasov
2017-11-22 16:23   ` Philippe Gerum
2017-11-22 12:33 ` Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda
2017-11-22 15:17   ` Greg Gallagher
2017-11-23 11:01   ` Philippe Gerum
2017-11-22 20:26 ` Jan Kiszka
2017-11-23 12:21   ` Henning Schild
2017-11-23 14:22     ` Giulio Moro
2017-11-23 20:45   ` Philippe Gerum
2017-11-24  8:52     ` Stéphane LOS
2017-11-24  9:00       ` Stéphane LOS [this message]
2017-11-24 10:46 ` Stéphane Ancelot
2017-11-25 20:32   ` Philippe Gerum
2017-12-01 15:09     ` Stéphane Ancelot
2017-12-01 15:12       ` Stéphane Ancelot
2017-11-26 18:00   ` Jorge Ramirez
2017-12-01  9:59 ` Stéphane Ancelot
2017-11-22 10:06 Norbert Lange
2017-11-22 17:09 ` Philippe Gerum
     [not found] <mailman.47.1511367834.4377.xenomai@xenomai.org>
2017-11-22 16:49 ` Steven Seeger
2017-11-23 11:17   ` Philippe Gerum
2017-11-23 23:12     ` Steven Seeger

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