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From: "David R. Bild" <david.bild@xaptum.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [v3,2/2] usb: misc: xapea00x: perform platform initialization of TPM
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 15:19:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAi9uDuMyUt1sROZ--_QHM5rUjTMo2F7PHyCoEtuD=y35ezgtA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 2:56 PM, David R. Bild <david.bild@xaptum.com> wrote:
> 2) The second reason is that the initialization done by the driver is
> work that should be done by platform, before the kernel ever sees the
> TPM.
>
> In particular, it sets the credentials for the platform hierarchy.
> The platform hierarchy is essentially the "root" account of the TPM,
> so it's critical that those credentials be set before the TPM is
> exposed to user-space.  (The platform credentials aren't persisted in
> the TPM and must be set by the platform on every boot.)  If the driver
> registers the TPM before doing initialization, there's a chance that
> something else could access the TPM before the platform credentials
> get set.

Setting the platform hierarchy password to a random discarded value
(and the dictionary lockout reset) is really the only special work
done here. The other steps (startup, self test, etc.) are done by the
TPM subsystem if needed.

So easy option would be for the TPM subsystem to set the platform
hierarchy password to a random value during device registration, if
needed.  It could either

a) check if the platform hierarchy authorization is null and then
always set a random password

or

b) take a flag when the device is registered indicating whether to do this.

This wouldn't require a significant change to the TPM subsystem
internals and would let me drop nearly the entire second patch from
this series.  (I think the dictionary lockout reset can be done via
the already exported "tpm_send(...)" function.)

Any thoughts on this approach?

Best,
David
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From: "David R. Bild" <david.bild@xaptum.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] usb: misc: xapea00x: perform platform initialization of TPM
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 15:19:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAi9uDuMyUt1sROZ--_QHM5rUjTMo2F7PHyCoEtuD=y35ezgtA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAi9uDvyzk1vnQVXkJxRCATy85g4nwMLJjqu6rr1YZn9NV_TYw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 2:56 PM, David R. Bild <david.bild@xaptum.com> wrote:
> 2) The second reason is that the initialization done by the driver is
> work that should be done by platform, before the kernel ever sees the
> TPM.
>
> In particular, it sets the credentials for the platform hierarchy.
> The platform hierarchy is essentially the "root" account of the TPM,
> so it's critical that those credentials be set before the TPM is
> exposed to user-space.  (The platform credentials aren't persisted in
> the TPM and must be set by the platform on every boot.)  If the driver
> registers the TPM before doing initialization, there's a chance that
> something else could access the TPM before the platform credentials
> get set.

Setting the platform hierarchy password to a random discarded value
(and the dictionary lockout reset) is really the only special work
done here. The other steps (startup, self test, etc.) are done by the
TPM subsystem if needed.

So easy option would be for the TPM subsystem to set the platform
hierarchy password to a random value during device registration, if
needed.  It could either

a) check if the platform hierarchy authorization is null and then
always set a random password

or

b) take a flag when the device is registered indicating whether to do this.

This wouldn't require a significant change to the TPM subsystem
internals and would let me drop nearly the entire second patch from
this series.  (I think the dictionary lockout reset can be done via
the already exported "tpm_send(...)" function.)

Any thoughts on this approach?

Best,
David

             reply	other threads:[~2018-05-04 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-04 20:19 David R. Bild [this message]
2018-05-04 20:19 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] usb: misc: xapea00x: perform platform initialization of TPM David R. Bild
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-05-25 20:31 [v3,2/2] " Ken Goldman
2018-05-25 20:31 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Ken Goldman
2018-05-25 20:23 [v3,2/2] " Ken Goldman
2018-05-25 20:23 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Ken Goldman
2018-05-14 20:12 [v3,2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-14 20:12 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-14 20:08 [v3,2/2] " Jason Gunthorpe
2018-05-14 20:08 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jason Gunthorpe
2018-05-14 19:59 [v3,2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-14 19:59 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-14 19:31 [v3,2/2] " Jason Gunthorpe
2018-05-14 19:31 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jason Gunthorpe
2018-05-13  8:51 [v3,2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-13  8:51 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-13  8:46 [v3,2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-13  8:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-10 15:17 [v3,2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10 15:17 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10 14:47 [v3,2/2] " James Bottomley
2018-05-10 14:47 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " James Bottomley
2018-05-10 14:41 [v3,2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10 14:41 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10 14:31 [v3,2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10 14:31 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10 14:29 [v3,2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10 14:29 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10 14:25 [v3,2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10 14:09 [v3,2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10 14:09 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-10  1:59 [v3,2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-10  1:59 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-10  1:44 [v3,2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-10  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-10  1:42 [v3,2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-10  1:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-10  1:42 [v3,2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-10  1:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-08 15:36 [v3,2/2] " James Bottomley
2018-05-08 15:36 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " James Bottomley
2018-05-08 15:29 [v3,2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-08 15:29 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-08 15:25 [v3,2/2] " James Bottomley
2018-05-08 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " James Bottomley
2018-05-08 10:55 [v3,2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-08 10:47 [v3,2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-08 10:47 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-05-08  9:09 [v3,1/2] usb: misc: xapea00x: add driver for Xaptum ENF Access Card Oliver Neukum
2018-05-08  9:09 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Oliver Neukum
2018-05-07 14:12 EXTERNAL: [PATCH v3 2/2] usb: misc: xapea00x: perform platform initialization of TPM Jeremy Boone
2018-05-07 14:12 ` Jeremy Boone
2018-05-07 13:31 [v3,1/2] usb: misc: xapea00x: add driver for Xaptum ENF Access Card David R. Bild
2018-05-07 13:31 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-07  9:58 [v3,1/2] " Oliver Neukum
2018-05-07  9:58 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Oliver Neukum
2018-05-06 15:02 [v3,2/2] usb: misc: xapea00x: perform platform initialization of TPM Jason Gunthorpe
2018-05-06 15:02 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jason Gunthorpe
2018-05-04 19:56 [v3,2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-04 19:56 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-04 19:06 [v3,2/2] " Jason Gunthorpe
2018-05-04 19:06 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " Jason Gunthorpe
2018-05-04 13:00 [v3,2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-04 13:00 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] " David R. Bild
2018-05-04 13:00 [v3,1/2] usb: misc: xapea00x: add driver for Xaptum ENF Access Card David R. Bild
2018-05-04 13:00 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " David R. Bild
     [not found] <20180430125418.31344-1-david.bild@xaptum.com>
2018-05-04 13:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Add driver for Xaptum ENF Access card (XAP-EA-00x) David R. Bild

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