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From: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
To: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	"ak@linux.intel.com" <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@gmail.com>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	tglx <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] perf: need to expose sched_clock to correlate user samples with kernel samples
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:16:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPqkBRaMUOz6MsJRzCu2wcvGoYasdnZCnneyzrUstYTWRJnqA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1360838032.4045.126.camel@hornet>

Hi,


I think the advantage of the ioctl() is that is reuses existing infrastructure.
The downside is that to get the timestamp you need at a minimum:

uint64_t get_perf_timestamp(void)
{
   struct perf_event_attr attr;
   uint64_t ts = 0;
   int fd;

   memset(&attr, 0, sizeof(attr));

   /* pick a dummy SW event (no PMU HW resource allocated), keep it disabled */
   attr.type = PERF_TYPE_SOFTWARE;
   attr.config =  PERF_COUNT_SW_CPU_CLOCK; /* dummy event */
   attr.disabled = 1;

   /* attach to self in per-thread mode */
   fd = perf_event_open(&attr, 0, -1, -1, 0);
   if (fd == -1)
       return 0;

  ioctl(fd, PERF_EVENT_IOC_GET_TIME, &ts);
  close(fd);

  return ts;
}

This function is likely to be called multiple times. So we could cache
the fd and reuse it.
There would be a bigger penalty only for the first call. Thereafter it
would cost probably
 just a bit more than the pfm_control() approach, because of the need
to go through VFS.
So I am fine with this.


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 20:00 +0000, Stephane Eranian wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 01:19 +0000, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>> >> If people are worried about adding a bunch of new perf syscalls, maybe
>> >> add a sys_perf_control() system call that works like an ioctl but
>> >> without a file descriptor. Something for things that don't require an
>> >> event attached to it, like to retrieve a time stamp counter that perf
>> >> uses, but done in a way that it could be used for other things perf
>> >> related that does not require an event.
>> >
>> >  /**
>> > + * sys_perf_control - ioctl-like interface to control system-wide
>> > + *                   perf behaviour
>> > + *
>> > + * @cmd:       one of the PERF_CONTROL_* commands
>> > + * @arg:       command-specific argument
>> > + */
>> > +SYSCALL_DEFINE2(perf_control, unsigned int, cmd, unsigned long, arg)
>> > +{
>> > +       switch (cmd) {
>> > +       case PERF_CONTROL_GET_TIME:
>> > +       {
>> > +               u64 time = perf_clock();
>> > +               if (copy_to_user((void __user *)arg, &time, sizeof(time)))
>> > +                       return -EFAULT;
>> > +               return 0;
>> > +       }
>> > +
>> > +       default:
>> > +               return -ENOTTY;
>> > +       }
>> > +}
>>
>> So what would be the role of this new syscall besides GET_TIME?
>> What other controls without a fd could be done? We are already passing
>> a lot of control thru the perf_event_open() some in the attr struct others
>> as arguments.
>
> I think Steven was thinking about an "extensible" fd-less interface.
> Whether we'll need any other fd-less control in the future, I don't
> know...
>
>> The only advantage of this "disguised" ioctl() is that it does not require
>> a fd. But it is worth adding a syscall just to avoid creating a fd?
>
> Frankly speaking, I have some doubts here, but I do sys_perf_open()
> anyway, so it was mainly trying to address your situation.
>
> One way or another I'd like to get the timestamp, so how about picking
> one solution and trying to make it happen? Seems that my previous
> "standard ioctl()" patch would be the best compromise?
>
> Pawel
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-18 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-16 10:13 [RFC] perf: need to expose sched_clock to correlate user samples with kernel samples Stephane Eranian
2012-10-16 17:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-18 19:33   ` Stephane Eranian
2012-11-10  2:04   ` John Stultz
2012-11-11 20:32     ` Stephane Eranian
2012-11-12 18:53       ` John Stultz
2012-11-12 20:54         ` Stephane Eranian
2012-11-12 22:39           ` John Stultz
2012-11-13 20:58     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-14 22:26       ` John Stultz
2012-11-14 23:30         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-01 14:18   ` Pawel Moll
2013-02-05 21:18     ` David Ahern
2013-02-05 22:13     ` Stephane Eranian
2013-02-05 22:28       ` John Stultz
2013-02-06  1:19         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-06 18:17           ` Pawel Moll
2013-02-13 20:00             ` Stephane Eranian
2013-02-14 10:33               ` Pawel Moll
2013-02-18 15:16                 ` Stephane Eranian [this message]
2013-02-18 18:59                   ` David Ahern
2013-02-18 20:35         ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-19 18:25           ` John Stultz
2013-02-19 19:55             ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-19 20:15               ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-19 20:35                 ` John Stultz
2013-02-19 21:50                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-19 22:20                     ` John Stultz
2013-02-20 10:06                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-20 10:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-23  6:04               ` John Stultz
2013-02-25 14:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-14 15:34                   ` Stephane Eranian
2013-03-14 19:57                     ` Pawel Moll
2013-03-31 16:23                       ` David Ahern
2013-04-01 18:29                         ` John Stultz
2013-04-01 22:29                           ` David Ahern
2013-04-01 23:12                             ` John Stultz
2013-04-03  9:17                             ` Stephane Eranian
2013-04-03 13:55                               ` David Ahern
2013-04-03 14:00                                 ` Stephane Eranian
2013-04-03 14:14                                   ` David Ahern
2013-04-03 14:22                                     ` Stephane Eranian
2013-04-03 17:57                                       ` John Stultz
2013-04-04  8:12                                         ` Stephane Eranian
2013-04-04 22:26                                           ` John Stultz
2013-04-02  7:54                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-02 16:05                             ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-02 16:19                             ` John Stultz
2013-04-02 16:34                               ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-03 17:19                               ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-03 17:29                                 ` John Stultz
2013-04-03 17:35                                   ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-03 17:50                                     ` John Stultz
2013-04-04  7:37                                       ` Richard Cochran
2013-04-04 16:33                                         ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-04 16:29                                       ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-05 18:16                                         ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-06 11:05                                           ` Richard Cochran
2013-04-08 17:58                                             ` Pawel Moll
2013-04-08 19:05                                               ` John Stultz
2013-04-09  5:02                                                 ` Richard Cochran
2013-02-06 18:17       ` Pawel Moll
2013-06-26 16:49     ` David Ahern
2013-07-15 10:44       ` Pawel Moll

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