From: Eugeni Dodonov <eugeni@dodonov.net>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>,
Eugeni Dodonov <eugeni.dodonov@intel.com>,
Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Subject: Re: [MMTests] IO metadata on XFS
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:28:12 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC7LmntOQoDOchQRc94=YB08WvH8k+uOOFPTp9v=uaigXP8ONw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120703123119.GA5103@phenom.ffwll.local>
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On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> Well, presuming I understand things correctly the cpu die only goes into
> the lowest sleep state (which iirc switches off l3 caches and
> interconnects) when both the cpu and gpu are in the lowest sleep state.
> rc6 is that deep-sleep state for the gpu, so without that enabled your
> system won't go into these deep-sleep states.
>
> I guess the slight changes in wakeup latency, power consumption (cuts
> about 10W on an idle desktop snb with resulting big effect on what turbo
> boost can sustain for short amounts of time) and all the follow-on effects
> are good enough to massively change timing-critical things.
>
The sad side effect is that the software has very little control over the
RC6 entry and exit, the hardware enters and leaves RC6 state on its own
when it detects that the GPU is idle beyond a threshold. Chances are that
if you are not running any GPU workload, the GPU simple enters RC6 state
and stays there.
It is possible to observe the current state and also time spent in rc6 by
looking at the /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_drpc_info file.
One other effect of RC6 is that it also allows CPU to go into higher turbo
modes as it has more watts to spend while GPU is idle, perhaps this is what
causes the issue here?
--
Eugeni Dodonov
<http://eugeni.dodonov.net/>
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From: Eugeni Dodonov <eugeni@dodonov.net>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>,
Eugeni Dodonov <eugeni.dodonov@intel.com>,
Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Subject: Re: [MMTests] IO metadata on XFS
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:28:12 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC7LmntOQoDOchQRc94=YB08WvH8k+uOOFPTp9v=uaigXP8ONw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120703123119.GA5103@phenom.ffwll.local>
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On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> Well, presuming I understand things correctly the cpu die only goes into
> the lowest sleep state (which iirc switches off l3 caches and
> interconnects) when both the cpu and gpu are in the lowest sleep state.
> rc6 is that deep-sleep state for the gpu, so without that enabled your
> system won't go into these deep-sleep states.
>
> I guess the slight changes in wakeup latency, power consumption (cuts
> about 10W on an idle desktop snb with resulting big effect on what turbo
> boost can sustain for short amounts of time) and all the follow-on effects
> are good enough to massively change timing-critical things.
>
The sad side effect is that the software has very little control over the
RC6 entry and exit, the hardware enters and leaves RC6 state on its own
when it detects that the GPU is idle beyond a threshold. Chances are that
if you are not running any GPU workload, the GPU simple enters RC6 state
and stays there.
It is possible to observe the current state and also time spent in rc6 by
looking at the /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_drpc_info file.
One other effect of RC6 is that it also allows CPU to go into higher turbo
modes as it has more watts to spend while GPU is idle, perhaps this is what
causes the issue here?
--
Eugeni Dodonov
<http://eugeni.dodonov.net/>
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Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-20 11:32 MMTests 0.04 Mel Gorman
2012-06-20 11:32 ` Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:19 ` Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:19 ` Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:21 ` [MMTests] Page allocator Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:21 ` Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:22 ` [MMTests] Network performance Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:22 ` Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:23 ` [MMTests] IO metadata on ext3 Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:23 ` Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:24 ` [MMTests] IO metadata on ext4 Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:24 ` Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:25 ` [MMTests] IO metadata on XFS Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:25 ` Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 11:25 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-01 23:54 ` Dave Chinner
2012-07-01 23:54 ` Dave Chinner
2012-07-01 23:54 ` Dave Chinner
2012-07-02 6:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-07-02 6:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-07-02 6:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-07-02 14:32 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-02 14:32 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-02 14:32 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-02 19:35 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-02 19:35 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-02 19:35 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 0:19 ` Dave Chinner
2012-07-03 0:19 ` Dave Chinner
2012-07-03 0:19 ` Dave Chinner
2012-07-03 10:59 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 10:59 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 10:59 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 11:44 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 11:44 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 11:44 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 12:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2012-07-03 12:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2012-07-03 12:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2012-07-03 13:08 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 13:08 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 13:08 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 13:28 ` Eugeni Dodonov [this message]
2012-07-03 13:28 ` Eugeni Dodonov
2012-07-04 0:47 ` Dave Chinner
2012-07-04 0:47 ` Dave Chinner
2012-07-04 0:47 ` Dave Chinner
2012-07-04 9:51 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-04 9:51 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-04 9:51 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 13:04 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-03 14:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2012-07-03 14:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2012-07-03 14:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2012-07-02 13:30 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-02 13:30 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-02 13:30 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-04 15:52 ` [MMTests] Page reclaim performance on ext3 Mel Gorman
2012-07-04 15:52 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-04 15:53 ` [MMTests] Page reclaim performance on ext4 Mel Gorman
2012-07-04 15:53 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-04 15:53 ` [MMTests] Page reclaim performance on xfs Mel Gorman
2012-07-04 15:53 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-05 14:56 ` [MMTests] Interactivity during IO on ext3 Mel Gorman
2012-07-05 14:56 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-10 9:49 ` Jan Kara
2012-07-10 9:49 ` Jan Kara
2012-07-10 11:30 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-10 11:30 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-05 14:57 ` [MMTests] Interactivity during IO on ext4 Mel Gorman
2012-07-05 14:57 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:12 ` [MMTests] Scheduler Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:12 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:13 ` [MMTests] Sysbench read-only on ext3 Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:13 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-24 2:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-07-24 2:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-07-24 8:19 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-24 8:19 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-24 8:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-07-24 8:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-07-23 21:14 ` [MMTests] Sysbench read-only on ext4 Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:14 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:15 ` [MMTests] Sysbench read-only on xfs Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:15 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:17 ` [MMTests] memcachetest and parallel IO on ext3 Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:17 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:19 ` [MMTests] memcachetest and parallel IO on xfs Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:19 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:20 ` [MMTests] Stress high-order allocations on ext3 Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:20 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:21 ` [MMTests] dbench4 async " Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:21 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-16 14:52 ` Jan Kara
2012-08-16 14:52 ` Jan Kara
2012-08-21 22:00 ` Jan Kara
2012-08-21 22:00 ` Jan Kara
2012-08-22 10:48 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-22 10:48 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:23 ` [MMTests] dbench4 async on ext4 Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:23 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:24 ` [MMTests] Threaded IO Performance on ext3 Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:24 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:25 ` [MMTests] Threaded IO Performance on xfs Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:25 ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-23 21:25 ` Mel Gorman
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