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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	Yongji Xie <xyjxie@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	zhong@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] memory: make ram device read/write endian sensitive
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 11:34:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA8769a_8xwk57FS6Ko+Lioud20+70JRSafeEic6GB_RAw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92580ca9-47fe-a943-7720-d3cb1fc6d2eb@redhat.com>

On 23 February 2017 at 10:33, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 23/02/2017 11:23, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> On 23 February 2017 at 10:10, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On 23/02/2017 11:02, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>> I'm really not convinced we need DEVICE_HOST_ENDIAN. RAM
>>>> areas should be target-endian (you can probably define
>>>> "target endianness" as "the endianness that RAM areas have".)
>>>
>>> This is not RAM.  This is MMIO, backed by a MMIO area in the host.
>>
>> Hmm, I see...the naming is a bit unfortunate if it's not RAM.
>
> Yeah, it's called like that because it is backed by a RAMBlock but it
> returns false for memory_access_is_direct.

We should probably update the doc comment to note that the
pointer is to host-endianness memory (and that this is not
like normal RAM which is target-endian)...

>>> The
>>> MemoryRegionOps read from the MMIO area (so the data has host
>>> endianness) and do not do any further swap:
>>>
>>>         data = *(uint16_t *)(mr->ram_block->host + addr);
>>>
>>> Here, the dereference is basically the same as ldl_he_p.
>>>
>>> If you wanted to make the MemoryRegion use DEVICE_NATIVE_ENDIAN, you'd
>>> need to tswap around the access.  Or you can use ldl_le_p and
>>> DEVICE_LITTLE_ENDIAN (this is what Yongji's patch open codes), or
>>> ldl_be_p and DEVICE_BIG_ENDIAN.  They are all the same in the end.
>>
>> Using stl_p &c in a DEVICE_NATIVE_ENDIAN MR would work too, right?
>> (This is how all the NATIVE_ENDIAN MRs in exec.c work.)
>
> Yes, it should, as long as the memcpy(...) of {ld,st}*_he_p is compiled
> to a single access, which should be the case.

...and whichever of these approaches we take, we should have
a comment which notes that we are converting from the host
endianness memory to the endianness specified by the MemoryRegion
endianness attribute.

thanks
-- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-23 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-21  6:46 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] memory: make ram device read/write endian sensitive Yongji Xie
2017-02-21 16:21 ` Alex Williamson
2017-02-21 16:34   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-21 18:09     ` Peter Maydell
2017-02-21 18:44       ` Alex Williamson
2017-02-22  7:54         ` Yongji Xie
2017-02-22 10:53         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-21 18:53       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-21 19:40         ` Peter Maydell
2017-02-23  4:20 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-02-23  8:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-23 10:02     ` Peter Maydell
2017-02-23 10:10       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-23 10:23         ` Peter Maydell
2017-02-23 10:33           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-23 11:34             ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2017-02-23 11:43               ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-23 12:26                 ` Peter Maydell
2017-02-23 12:53                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-23 14:35                     ` Peter Maydell
2017-02-23 15:21                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-23 15:29                         ` Peter Maydell
2017-02-23 15:58                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-23 16:08                             ` Peter Maydell
2017-02-23 16:15                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-23 17:14                                 ` Yongji Xie
2017-02-24  3:28                                   ` David Gibson
2017-02-23 23:36                           ` Paul Mackerras
2017-02-23 15:39                         ` Alex Williamson
2017-02-23 15:47                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-23 16:08                             ` Alex Williamson
2017-02-24  3:26                 ` David Gibson
2017-02-23 11:04     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-02-27  2:25   ` Michael Roth
2017-02-27  3:25     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-02-27  4:28       ` Yongji Xie

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