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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Bartosz Golaszewski" <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	"Dan Carpenter" <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Peilin Ye" <yepeilin.cs@gmail.com>,
	"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	"Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Vandana BN" <bnvandana@gmail.com>,
	"Ezequiel Garcia" <ezequiel@collabora.com>,
	"Niklas Söderlund" <niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se>,
	linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Linux-kernel-mentees] [PATCH v3] media/v4l2-core: Fix kernel-infoleak in video_put_user()
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:18:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a2i2mnRPZ-f9UNxPNJcjyjdTOA7-fgcMqavsV8Ab17RkQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200730083833.GD3703480@smile.fi.intel.com>

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:38 AM Andy Shevchenko
<andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:15:24AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:07 AM Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 3:58 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 3:06 PM Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > > Something like
> > > >
> > > > static int lineevent_put_data(void __user *uptr, struct gpioevent_data *ge)
> > > > {
> > > > #ifdef __x86_64__
> > > >         /* i386 has no padding after 'id' */
> > > >         if (in_ia32_syscall()) {
> > > >                 struct {
> > > >                         compat_u64      timestamp __packed;
> > > >                         u32             id;
> > > >                 } compat_ge = { ge->timestamp, ge->id };
> > > >
> > > >                 if (copy_to_user(uptr, &compat_ge, sizeof(compat_ge)))
> > > >                         return -EFAULT;
> > > >
> > > >                 return sizeof(compat_ge);
> > > >         }
> > > > #endif
> > > >
> > > >         if (copy_to_user(uptr, ge, sizeof(*ge))
> > > >                 return -EFAULT;
> > > >
> > > >         return sizeof(*ge);
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >        Arnd
> > >
> > > Hi Arnd,
> > >
> > > Andy actually had a patch for that but since this isn't a regression
> > > (it never worked), we decided to leave it as it is and get it right in
> > > v2 API.
> >
> > I would argue that it needs to be fixed anyway, unless you also want
> > to remove the v1 interface for native mode. If this works on 32-bit
> > kernels, on 64-bit kernels with 64-bit user space and on compat
> > 32-bit user space on 64-bit non-x86 architectures, I see no reason
> > to leave it broken specifically on x86 compat user space. There are
> > still reasons to use 32-bit x86 user space for low-memory machines
> > even though native i386 kernels are getting increasingly silly.
>
> It was possible to "fix" (mitigate to some extent) before libgpiod got support
> for several events in a request. Now it seems to be impossible to fix. AFAIU we
> must discard any request to more than one event in it.

Any reason why the workaround I suggested above would not work?
The in_ia32_syscall() check should be completely reliable in telling whether
we are called from read() by an ia32 task or not, and we use the same
logic for input_event, which has a similar problem (on all compat architectures,
not just x86).

> However I'm not an expert in compat IOCTL code (you are :-) and perhaps you may
> provide ideas better than mine.

What makes this interface tricky is that this is actually a read() call, not
ioctl() which is usually easier because it encodes the data length in the
command code. As far as I could tell from skimming the interface, the
ioctls are actually fine here.

    Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Niklas Söderlund" <niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Bartosz Golaszewski" <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Peilin Ye" <yepeilin.cs@gmail.com>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Vandana BN" <bnvandana@gmail.com>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"Ezequiel Garcia" <ezequiel@collabora.com>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Dan Carpenter" <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-kernel-mentees] [PATCH v3] media/v4l2-core: Fix kernel-infoleak in video_put_user()
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:18:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a2i2mnRPZ-f9UNxPNJcjyjdTOA7-fgcMqavsV8Ab17RkQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200730083833.GD3703480@smile.fi.intel.com>

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:38 AM Andy Shevchenko
<andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:15:24AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:07 AM Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 3:58 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 3:06 PM Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > > Something like
> > > >
> > > > static int lineevent_put_data(void __user *uptr, struct gpioevent_data *ge)
> > > > {
> > > > #ifdef __x86_64__
> > > >         /* i386 has no padding after 'id' */
> > > >         if (in_ia32_syscall()) {
> > > >                 struct {
> > > >                         compat_u64      timestamp __packed;
> > > >                         u32             id;
> > > >                 } compat_ge = { ge->timestamp, ge->id };
> > > >
> > > >                 if (copy_to_user(uptr, &compat_ge, sizeof(compat_ge)))
> > > >                         return -EFAULT;
> > > >
> > > >                 return sizeof(compat_ge);
> > > >         }
> > > > #endif
> > > >
> > > >         if (copy_to_user(uptr, ge, sizeof(*ge))
> > > >                 return -EFAULT;
> > > >
> > > >         return sizeof(*ge);
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >        Arnd
> > >
> > > Hi Arnd,
> > >
> > > Andy actually had a patch for that but since this isn't a regression
> > > (it never worked), we decided to leave it as it is and get it right in
> > > v2 API.
> >
> > I would argue that it needs to be fixed anyway, unless you also want
> > to remove the v1 interface for native mode. If this works on 32-bit
> > kernels, on 64-bit kernels with 64-bit user space and on compat
> > 32-bit user space on 64-bit non-x86 architectures, I see no reason
> > to leave it broken specifically on x86 compat user space. There are
> > still reasons to use 32-bit x86 user space for low-memory machines
> > even though native i386 kernels are getting increasingly silly.
>
> It was possible to "fix" (mitigate to some extent) before libgpiod got support
> for several events in a request. Now it seems to be impossible to fix. AFAIU we
> must discard any request to more than one event in it.

Any reason why the workaround I suggested above would not work?
The in_ia32_syscall() check should be completely reliable in telling whether
we are called from read() by an ia32 task or not, and we use the same
logic for input_event, which has a similar problem (on all compat architectures,
not just x86).

> However I'm not an expert in compat IOCTL code (you are :-) and perhaps you may
> provide ideas better than mine.

What makes this interface tricky is that this is actually a read() call, not
ioctl() which is usually easier because it encodes the data length in the
command code. As far as I could tell from skimming the interface, the
ioctls are actually fine here.

    Arnd
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-30  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-26 16:44 [Linux-kernel-mentees] [PATCH] media/v4l2-core: Fix kernel-infoleak in video_put_user() Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 16:44 ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 17:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-26 17:30   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-26 18:07   ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 18:07     ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 22:08     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-26 22:08       ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-26 22:15       ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 22:15         ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 18:12   ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 18:12     ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 22:05 ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [PATCH v2] " Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 22:05   ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 22:10   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-26 22:10     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-26 22:16     ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 22:16       ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 22:27   ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [PATCH v3] " Peilin Ye
2020-07-26 22:27     ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-27  7:25     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-27  7:25       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-27  7:56       ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-27  7:56         ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-27 13:16       ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-27 13:16         ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-27 14:05         ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-27 14:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-27 14:14           ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-27 14:14             ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-27 14:20             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-27 14:20               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-27 14:46             ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-27 14:46               ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-27 15:30               ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-27 15:30                 ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-27 14:43           ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-27 14:43             ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-27 14:55             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-27 14:55               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-27 22:04         ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-27 22:04           ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-28  9:00           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-28  9:00             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-28 10:02           ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-28 10:02             ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-27 22:33         ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-27 22:33           ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-28  9:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-28  9:10             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-28  9:47           ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-28  9:47             ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-28 13:13             ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-28 13:13               ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-28 12:22         ` Linus Walleij
2020-07-28 12:22           ` Linus Walleij
2020-07-28 13:06           ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-28 13:06             ` Dan Carpenter
2020-07-28 13:58             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-28 13:58               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-30  8:07               ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2020-07-30  8:07                 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2020-07-30  8:15                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-30  8:15                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-30  8:38                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-07-30  8:38                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-07-30  9:18                     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2020-07-30  9:18                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-30 11:48                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-07-30 11:48                         ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-07-30 13:49                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-30 13:49                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-08-02 16:55         ` Peilin Ye
2020-08-02 16:55           ` Peilin Ye
2020-07-27  8:00     ` [Linux-kernel-mentees] [PATCH v4] " Peilin Ye
2020-07-27  8:00       ` Peilin Ye

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