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From: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
Cc: "Feng Tang" <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	"Stephen Rothwell" <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	"Rong Chen" <rong.a.chen@intel.com>,
	"Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	ying.huang@intel.com, LKP <lkp@01.org>
Subject: Re: [LKP] [drm/mgag200] 90f479ae51: vm-scalability.median -18.8% regression
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 06:02:58 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPM=9twNdYZCbyByLqZPpcK+ifoeL0weXppqzLyZEOn7GPAV_Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64d41701-55a4-e526-17ae-8936de4bc1ef@suse.de>

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 03:25, Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I was traveling and could reply earlier. Sorry for taking so long.
>
> Am 13.08.19 um 11:36 schrieb Feng Tang:
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 03:25:45PM +0800, Feng Tang wrote:
> >> Hi Thomas,
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 04:12:29PM +0800, Rong Chen wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>>> Actually we run the benchmark as a background process, do we need to
> >>>>> disable the cursor and test again?
> >>>> There's a worker thread that updates the display from the shadow buffer.
> >>>> The blinking cursor periodically triggers the worker thread, but the
> >>>> actual update is just the size of one character.
> >>>>
> >>>> The point of the test without output is to see if the regression comes
> >>> >from the buffer update (i.e., the memcpy from shadow buffer to VRAM), or
> >>> >from the worker thread. If the regression goes away after disabling the
> >>>> blinking cursor, then the worker thread is the problem. If it already
> >>>> goes away if there's simply no output from the test, the screen update
> >>>> is the problem. On my machine I have to disable the blinking cursor, so
> >>>> I think the worker causes the performance drop.
> >>>
> >>> We disabled redirecting stdout/stderr to /dev/kmsg,  and the regression is
> >>> gone.
> >>>
> >>> commit:
> >>>   f1f8555dfb9 drm/bochs: Use shadow buffer for bochs framebuffer console
> >>>   90f479ae51a drm/mgag200: Replace struct mga_fbdev with generic framebuffer
> >>> emulation
> >>>
> >>> f1f8555dfb9a70a2  90f479ae51afa45efab97afdde testcase/testparams/testbox
> >>> ----------------  -------------------------- ---------------------------
> >>>          %stddev      change         %stddev
> >>>              \          |                \
> >>>      43785                       44481
> >>> vm-scalability/300s-8T-anon-cow-seq-hugetlb/lkp-knm01
> >>>      43785                       44481        GEO-MEAN vm-scalability.median
> >>
> >> Till now, from Rong's tests:
> >> 1. Disabling cursor blinking doesn't cure the regression.
> >> 2. Disabling printint test results to console can workaround the
> >> regression.
> >>
> >> Also if we set the perfer_shadown to 0, the regression is also
> >> gone.
> >
> > We also did some further break down for the time consumed by the
> > new code.
> >
> > The drm_fb_helper_dirty_work() calls sequentially
> > 1. drm_client_buffer_vmap       (290 us)
> > 2. drm_fb_helper_dirty_blit_real  (19240 us)
> > 3. helper->fb->funcs->dirty()    ---> NULL for mgag200 driver
> > 4. drm_client_buffer_vunmap       (215 us)
> >
>
> It's somewhat different to what I observed, but maybe I just couldn't
> reproduce the problem correctly.
>
> > The average run time is listed after the function names.
> >
> > From it, we can see drm_fb_helper_dirty_blit_real() takes too long
> > time (about 20ms for each run). I guess this is the root cause
> > of this regression, as the original code doesn't use this dirty worker.
>
> True, the original code uses a temporary buffer, but updates the display
> immediately.
>
> My guess is that this could be a caching problem. The worker runs on a
> different CPU, which doesn't have the shadow buffer in cache.
>
> > As said in last email, setting the prefer_shadow to 0 can avoid
> > the regrssion. Could it be an option?
>
> Unfortunately not. Without the shadow buffer, the console's display
> buffer permanently resides in video memory. It consumes significant
> amount of that memory (say 8 MiB out of 16 MiB). That doesn't leave
> enough room for anything else.
>
> The best option is to not print to the console.

Wait a second, I thought the driver did an eviction on modeset of the
scanned out object, this was a deliberate design decision made when
writing those drivers, has this been removed in favour of gem and
generic code paths?

Dave.

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From: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
To: lkp@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: [drm/mgag200] 90f479ae51: vm-scalability.median -18.8% regression
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 06:02:58 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPM=9twNdYZCbyByLqZPpcK+ifoeL0weXppqzLyZEOn7GPAV_Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64d41701-55a4-e526-17ae-8936de4bc1ef@suse.de>

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On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 03:25, Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I was traveling and could reply earlier. Sorry for taking so long.
>
> Am 13.08.19 um 11:36 schrieb Feng Tang:
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 03:25:45PM +0800, Feng Tang wrote:
> >> Hi Thomas,
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 04:12:29PM +0800, Rong Chen wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>>> Actually we run the benchmark as a background process, do we need to
> >>>>> disable the cursor and test again?
> >>>> There's a worker thread that updates the display from the shadow buffer.
> >>>> The blinking cursor periodically triggers the worker thread, but the
> >>>> actual update is just the size of one character.
> >>>>
> >>>> The point of the test without output is to see if the regression comes
> >>> >from the buffer update (i.e., the memcpy from shadow buffer to VRAM), or
> >>> >from the worker thread. If the regression goes away after disabling the
> >>>> blinking cursor, then the worker thread is the problem. If it already
> >>>> goes away if there's simply no output from the test, the screen update
> >>>> is the problem. On my machine I have to disable the blinking cursor, so
> >>>> I think the worker causes the performance drop.
> >>>
> >>> We disabled redirecting stdout/stderr to /dev/kmsg,  and the regression is
> >>> gone.
> >>>
> >>> commit:
> >>>   f1f8555dfb9 drm/bochs: Use shadow buffer for bochs framebuffer console
> >>>   90f479ae51a drm/mgag200: Replace struct mga_fbdev with generic framebuffer
> >>> emulation
> >>>
> >>> f1f8555dfb9a70a2  90f479ae51afa45efab97afdde testcase/testparams/testbox
> >>> ----------------  -------------------------- ---------------------------
> >>>          %stddev      change         %stddev
> >>>              \          |                \
> >>>      43785                       44481
> >>> vm-scalability/300s-8T-anon-cow-seq-hugetlb/lkp-knm01
> >>>      43785                       44481        GEO-MEAN vm-scalability.median
> >>
> >> Till now, from Rong's tests:
> >> 1. Disabling cursor blinking doesn't cure the regression.
> >> 2. Disabling printint test results to console can workaround the
> >> regression.
> >>
> >> Also if we set the perfer_shadown to 0, the regression is also
> >> gone.
> >
> > We also did some further break down for the time consumed by the
> > new code.
> >
> > The drm_fb_helper_dirty_work() calls sequentially
> > 1. drm_client_buffer_vmap       (290 us)
> > 2. drm_fb_helper_dirty_blit_real  (19240 us)
> > 3. helper->fb->funcs->dirty()    ---> NULL for mgag200 driver
> > 4. drm_client_buffer_vunmap       (215 us)
> >
>
> It's somewhat different to what I observed, but maybe I just couldn't
> reproduce the problem correctly.
>
> > The average run time is listed after the function names.
> >
> > From it, we can see drm_fb_helper_dirty_blit_real() takes too long
> > time (about 20ms for each run). I guess this is the root cause
> > of this regression, as the original code doesn't use this dirty worker.
>
> True, the original code uses a temporary buffer, but updates the display
> immediately.
>
> My guess is that this could be a caching problem. The worker runs on a
> different CPU, which doesn't have the shadow buffer in cache.
>
> > As said in last email, setting the prefer_shadow to 0 can avoid
> > the regrssion. Could it be an option?
>
> Unfortunately not. Without the shadow buffer, the console's display
> buffer permanently resides in video memory. It consumes significant
> amount of that memory (say 8 MiB out of 16 MiB). That doesn't leave
> enough room for anything else.
>
> The best option is to not print to the console.

Wait a second, I thought the driver did an eviction on modeset of the
scanned out object, this was a deliberate design decision made when
writing those drivers, has this been removed in favour of gem and
generic code paths?

Dave.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-22 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-29  9:51 [drm/mgag200] 90f479ae51: vm-scalability.median -18.8% regression kernel test robot
2019-07-29  9:51 ` kernel test robot
2019-07-30 17:50 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-07-30 17:50   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-07-30 18:12   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-07-30 18:12     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-07-30 18:50     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-07-30 18:50       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-07-30 18:59       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-07-30 18:59         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-07-30 20:26         ` Dave Airlie
2019-07-30 20:26           ` Dave Airlie
2019-07-31  8:13           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-07-31  8:13             ` Daniel Vetter
2019-07-31  9:25             ` [LKP] " Huang, Ying
2019-07-31  9:25               ` Huang, Ying
2019-07-31 10:12               ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-07-31 10:12                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-07-31 10:21               ` [LKP] " Michel Dänzer
2019-08-01  6:19                 ` Rong Chen
2019-08-01  6:19                   ` Rong Chen
2019-08-01  8:37                   ` [LKP] " Feng Tang
2019-08-01  8:37                     ` Feng Tang
2019-08-01  9:59                     ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-01  9:59                       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-01 11:25                       ` [LKP] " Feng Tang
2019-08-01 11:25                         ` Feng Tang
2019-08-01 11:58                         ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-01 11:58                           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-02  7:11                           ` [LKP] " Rong Chen
2019-08-02  7:11                             ` Rong Chen
2019-08-02  8:23                             ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-02  8:23                               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-02  9:20                             ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-02  9:20                               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-01  9:57                   ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-01  9:57                     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-01 13:30                   ` [LKP] " Michel Dänzer
2019-08-02  8:17                     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-02  8:17                       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-07-31 10:10             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-07-31 10:10               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-02  9:11               ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-02  9:11                 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-02  9:26                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-02  9:26                   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-04 18:39   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-04 18:39     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-05  7:02     ` Feng Tang
2019-08-05  7:02       ` Feng Tang
2019-08-05  7:28       ` Rong Chen
2019-08-05 10:25         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-05 10:25           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-06 12:59           ` [LKP] " Chen, Rong A
2019-08-06 12:59             ` Chen, Rong A
2019-08-07 10:42             ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-07 10:42               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-09  8:12               ` [LKP] " Rong Chen
2019-08-09  8:12                 ` Rong Chen
2019-08-12  7:25                 ` [LKP] " Feng Tang
2019-08-12  7:25                   ` Feng Tang
2019-08-13  9:36                   ` [LKP] " Feng Tang
2019-08-13  9:36                     ` Feng Tang
2019-08-13  9:36                     ` [LKP] " Feng Tang
2019-08-16  6:55                     ` Feng Tang
2019-08-16  6:55                       ` Feng Tang
2019-08-22 17:25                     ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-22 17:25                       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-22 17:25                       ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-22 20:02                       ` Dave Airlie [this message]
2019-08-22 20:02                         ` Dave Airlie
2019-08-23  9:54                         ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-23  9:54                           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-23  9:54                           ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-24  5:16                       ` Feng Tang
2019-08-24  5:16                         ` Feng Tang
2019-08-24  5:16                         ` [LKP] " Feng Tang
2019-08-26 10:50                         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-26 10:50                           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-27 12:33                           ` [LKP] " Chen, Rong A
2019-08-27 12:33                             ` Chen, Rong A
2019-08-27 12:33                             ` [LKP] " Chen, Rong A
2019-08-27 17:16                             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-27 17:16                               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-28  9:37                               ` [LKP] " Rong Chen
2019-08-28  9:37                                 ` Rong Chen
2019-08-28 10:51                                 ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-28 10:51                                   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-09-04  6:27                                   ` [LKP] " Feng Tang
2019-09-04  6:27                                     ` Feng Tang
2019-09-04  6:53                                     ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-09-04  6:53                                       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-09-04  8:11                                       ` [LKP] " Daniel Vetter
2019-09-04  8:11                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-04  8:35                                         ` [LKP] " Feng Tang
2019-09-04  8:35                                           ` Feng Tang
2019-09-04  8:43                                           ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-09-04  8:43                                             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-09-04 14:30                                             ` [LKP] " Chen, Rong A
2019-09-04 14:30                                               ` Chen, Rong A
2019-09-04  9:17                                           ` [LKP] " Daniel Vetter
2019-09-04  9:17                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-04 11:15                                             ` [LKP] " Dave Airlie
2019-09-04 11:15                                               ` Dave Airlie
2019-09-04 11:20                                               ` [LKP] " Daniel Vetter
2019-09-04 11:20                                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-04 11:20                                                 ` [LKP] " Daniel Vetter
2019-09-05  6:59                                                 ` Feng Tang
2019-09-05  6:59                                                   ` Feng Tang
2019-09-05 10:37                                                   ` [LKP] " Daniel Vetter
2019-09-05 10:37                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-05 10:48                                                     ` [LKP] " Feng Tang
2019-09-05 10:48                                                       ` Feng Tang
2019-09-05 10:48                                                       ` [LKP] " Feng Tang
2019-09-09 14:12                                     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-09-09 14:12                                       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-09-09 14:12                                       ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-09-16  9:06                                       ` Feng Tang
2019-09-16  9:06                                         ` Feng Tang
2019-09-17  8:48                                         ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-09-17  8:48                                           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-09-17  8:48                                           ` [LKP] " Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-05 10:22       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-05 10:22         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2019-08-05 12:52         ` Feng Tang
2019-08-05 12:52           ` Feng Tang
2020-01-06 13:19           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-01-06 13:19             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-01-08  2:25             ` Rong Chen
2020-01-08  2:28               ` Rong Chen
2020-01-08  5:20               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-01-08  5:20                 ` Thomas Zimmermann

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