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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, mst@redhat.com
Cc: jasowang@redhat.com, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	hch@lst.de, m.szyprowski@samsung.com, robin.murphy@arm.com,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, x86@kernel.org,
	sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com, jpoimboe@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/8] virtio: Force only split mode with protected guest
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 11:00:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0e66b4c-cec5-2a26-9431-d5a21e22c8f2@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc5c8265-83f7-aeb1-bc30-3367fe68bc97@kernel.org>


On 6/3/2021 10:33 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On 6/2/21 5:41 PM, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> Only allow split mode when in a protected guest. Followon
>> patches harden the split mode code paths, and we don't want
>> an malicious host to force anything else. Also disallow
>> indirect mode for similar reasons.
> I read this as "the virtio driver is buggy.  Let's disable most of the
> buggy code in one special case in which we need a driver without bugs.
> In all the other cases (e.g. hardware virtio device connected over
> USB-C), driver bugs are still allowed."

My understanding is most of the other modes (except for split with separate descriptors) are obsolete and just there for compatibility. As long as they're deprecated they won't harm anyone.

-Andi


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, mst@redhat.com
Cc: jasowang@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, jpoimboe@redhat.com,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/8] virtio: Force only split mode with protected guest
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 11:00:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0e66b4c-cec5-2a26-9431-d5a21e22c8f2@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc5c8265-83f7-aeb1-bc30-3367fe68bc97@kernel.org>


On 6/3/2021 10:33 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On 6/2/21 5:41 PM, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> Only allow split mode when in a protected guest. Followon
>> patches harden the split mode code paths, and we don't want
>> an malicious host to force anything else. Also disallow
>> indirect mode for similar reasons.
> I read this as "the virtio driver is buggy.  Let's disable most of the
> buggy code in one special case in which we need a driver without bugs.
> In all the other cases (e.g. hardware virtio device connected over
> USB-C), driver bugs are still allowed."

My understanding is most of the other modes (except for split with separate descriptors) are obsolete and just there for compatibility. As long as they're deprecated they won't harm anyone.

-Andi

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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, mst@redhat.com
Cc: sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, jpoimboe@redhat.com,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, hch@lst.de, m.szyprowski@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/8] virtio: Force only split mode with protected guest
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 11:00:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0e66b4c-cec5-2a26-9431-d5a21e22c8f2@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc5c8265-83f7-aeb1-bc30-3367fe68bc97@kernel.org>


On 6/3/2021 10:33 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On 6/2/21 5:41 PM, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> Only allow split mode when in a protected guest. Followon
>> patches harden the split mode code paths, and we don't want
>> an malicious host to force anything else. Also disallow
>> indirect mode for similar reasons.
> I read this as "the virtio driver is buggy.  Let's disable most of the
> buggy code in one special case in which we need a driver without bugs.
> In all the other cases (e.g. hardware virtio device connected over
> USB-C), driver bugs are still allowed."

My understanding is most of the other modes (except for split with separate descriptors) are obsolete and just there for compatibility. As long as they're deprecated they won't harm anyone.

-Andi

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Virtualization mailing list
Virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-03 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-03  0:41 Virtio hardening for TDX Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41 ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41 ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41 ` [PATCH v1 1/8] virtio: Force only split mode with protected guest Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  1:36   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  1:36     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  1:36     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  1:48     ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  1:48       ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  1:48       ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  2:32       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  2:32         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  2:32         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  2:56         ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  2:56           ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  2:56           ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  3:02           ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  3:02             ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  3:02             ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03 13:55             ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03 13:55               ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03 13:55               ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-04  2:29               ` Jason Wang
2021-06-04  2:29                 ` Jason Wang
2021-06-04  2:29                 ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03 17:33   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-03 17:33     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-03 17:33     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-03 18:00     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2021-06-03 18:00       ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03 18:00       ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03 19:31       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-03 19:31         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-03 19:31         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-03 19:53         ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03 19:53           ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03 19:53           ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03 22:17           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-03 22:17             ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-03 22:17             ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-03 23:32             ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03 23:32               ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03 23:32               ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-04  1:46               ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-04  1:46                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-04  1:46                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-04  1:54                 ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-04  1:54                   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-04  1:54                   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-04  1:22         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-04  1:22           ` Jason Wang
2021-06-04  1:22           ` Jason Wang
2021-06-04  1:29       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-04  1:29         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-04  1:29         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-04  2:20     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-04  2:20       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-04  2:20       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  0:41 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] virtio: Add boundary checks to virtio ring Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  2:14   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  2:14     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  2:14     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  2:18     ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  2:18       ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  2:18       ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  2:36       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  2:36         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  2:36         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  0:41 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] virtio: Harden split buffer detachment Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  2:29   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  2:29     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  2:29     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  0:41 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] x86/tdx: Add arch_has_restricted_memory_access for TDX Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  4:02   ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2021-06-03  4:02     ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2021-06-03  0:41 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] dma: Use size for swiotlb boundary checks Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  1:48   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-06-03  1:48     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-06-03  1:48     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-06-03  2:03     ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  2:03       ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  2:03       ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  9:09   ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-03  9:09     ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-03  9:09     ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-03  0:41 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] dma: Add return value to dma_unmap_page Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  9:08   ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-03  9:08     ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-03  9:08     ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-03 12:36     ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03 12:36       ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03 12:36       ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] virtio: Abort IO when descriptor points outside forced swiotlb Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] virtio: Error out on endless free lists Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  0:41   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  1:34 ` Virtio hardening for TDX Jason Wang
2021-06-03  1:34   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  1:34   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-03  1:56   ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  1:56     ` Andi Kleen
2021-06-03  1:56     ` Andi Kleen

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