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From: Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Mohamed Mediouni <mohamed.mediouni@caramail.com>,
	Stan Skowronek <stan@corellium.com>,
	Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/25] Apple M1 SoC platform bring-up
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 00:20:11 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <add1937b-183b-17a9-94db-f384801a079e@marcan.st> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210218143644.GC89209@C02TD0UTHF1T.local>

On 18/02/2021 23.36, Mark Rutland wrote:
> IIUC, the CPUs in these parts have some IMP-DEF instructions that can be
> used at EL0 which might have some IMP-DEF state. Our general expectation
> is that FW should configure such things to trap, but I don't know
> whether the M1 FW does that, and I fear that this will end up being a
> problem for us -- even if that doesn't affect EL1/EL2, IMP-DEF state is
> an interesting covert channel between EL0 tasks, and not generally safe
> to use thanks to context-switch and idle, so I'd like to make sure we
> can catch usage and make it SIGILL.
> 
> Do you happen to know whether all of that is configured to trap, and if
> not, is it possible to adjust the bootloader to ensure it is?

Very good point!

If only they were IMP-DEF... they're straight in Unallocated space. I 
spent some time the other day exhaustively searching the chunk of the 
encoding space where it looks like all these "fun" additions are,
at EL2, and I documented what I found here:

https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/HW:Apple-Instructions

I haven't tested things at EL0 yet, but it looks like the stateful 
instructions known to be usable in EL0 (AMX) already default to trap on 
this platform, so we should be safe there. Everything else looks like it 
probably either shouldn't work in EL0 (I sure hope the address 
translation one doesn't...) or is probably stateless. I'll dig deeper 
and test EL0 in the future, but so far things look OK (for some 
questionable values of OK :) ).

-- 
Hector Martin (marcan@marcan.st)
Public Key: https://mrcn.st/pub

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Mohamed Mediouni <mohamed.mediouni@caramail.com>,
	Stan Skowronek <stan@corellium.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/25] Apple M1 SoC platform bring-up
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 00:20:11 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <add1937b-183b-17a9-94db-f384801a079e@marcan.st> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210218143644.GC89209@C02TD0UTHF1T.local>

On 18/02/2021 23.36, Mark Rutland wrote:
> IIUC, the CPUs in these parts have some IMP-DEF instructions that can be
> used at EL0 which might have some IMP-DEF state. Our general expectation
> is that FW should configure such things to trap, but I don't know
> whether the M1 FW does that, and I fear that this will end up being a
> problem for us -- even if that doesn't affect EL1/EL2, IMP-DEF state is
> an interesting covert channel between EL0 tasks, and not generally safe
> to use thanks to context-switch and idle, so I'd like to make sure we
> can catch usage and make it SIGILL.
> 
> Do you happen to know whether all of that is configured to trap, and if
> not, is it possible to adjust the bootloader to ensure it is?

Very good point!

If only they were IMP-DEF... they're straight in Unallocated space. I 
spent some time the other day exhaustively searching the chunk of the 
encoding space where it looks like all these "fun" additions are,
at EL2, and I documented what I found here:

https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/HW:Apple-Instructions

I haven't tested things at EL0 yet, but it looks like the stateful 
instructions known to be usable in EL0 (AMX) already default to trap on 
this platform, so we should be safe there. Everything else looks like it 
probably either shouldn't work in EL0 (I sure hope the address 
translation one doesn't...) or is probably stateless. I'll dig deeper 
and test EL0 in the future, but so far things look OK (for some 
questionable values of OK :) ).

-- 
Hector Martin (marcan@marcan.st)
Public Key: https://mrcn.st/pub

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Thread overview: 185+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-15 12:16 [PATCH v2 00/25] Apple M1 SoC platform bring-up Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16 ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 01/25] dt-bindings: vendor-prefixes: Add apple prefix Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 17:44   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 17:44     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-02  8:21   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-02  8:21     ` Linus Walleij
2021-02-15 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 02/25] dt-bindings: arm: apple: Add bindings for Apple ARM platforms Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 17:48   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 17:48     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-16 14:30     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-16 14:30       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 03/25] dt-bindings: arm: cpus: Add apple,firestorm & icestorm compatibles Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16   ` [PATCH v2 03/25] dt-bindings: arm: cpus: Add apple, firestorm " Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 04/25] arm64: cputype: Add CPU implementor & types for the Apple M1 cores Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 05/25] dt-bindings: timer: arm,arch_timer: Add interrupt-names support Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16   ` [PATCH v2 05/25] dt-bindings: timer: arm, arch_timer: " Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 06/25] arm64: arch_timer: implement support for interrupt-names Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 13:28   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-15 13:28     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-15 15:13     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 15:13       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 18:23   ` Tony Lindgren
2021-02-15 18:23     ` Tony Lindgren
2021-02-16 14:33     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-16 14:33       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 07/25] arm64: cpufeature: Add a feature for FIQ support Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 08/25] arm64: Always keep DAIF.[IF] in sync Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-17 12:22   ` Mark Rutland
2021-02-17 12:22     ` Mark Rutland
2021-02-18 12:51     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-18 12:51       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-18 14:22       ` Mark Rutland
2021-02-18 14:22         ` Mark Rutland
2021-02-18 14:42         ` Hector Martin
2021-02-18 14:42           ` Hector Martin
2021-02-18 15:26           ` Mark Rutland
2021-02-18 15:26             ` Mark Rutland
2021-02-15 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 09/25] arm64: entry: Map the FIQ vector to IRQ on NEEDS_FIQ platforms Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-17 11:49   ` Mark Rutland
2021-02-17 11:49     ` Mark Rutland
2021-02-17 14:38     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-17 14:38       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-15 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 10/25] asm-generic/io.h: Add a non-posted variant of ioremap() Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 15:27   ` kernel test robot
2021-02-15 15:27     ` kernel test robot
2021-02-15 16:47     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-16 10:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-16 10:53     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-18 13:08     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-18 13:08       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 11/25] arm64: Implement ioremap_np() to map MMIO as nGnRnE Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:16   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 12/25] of/address: Add infrastructure to declare MMIO as non-posted Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 13/25] arm64: Add Apple vendor-specific system registers Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 14/25] dt-bindings: interrupt-controller: Add DT bindings for apple-aic Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-16  9:41   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-16  9:41     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-16 11:00     ` Mark Kettenis
2021-02-16 11:00       ` Mark Kettenis
2021-02-16 11:21       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-16 11:21         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-16 11:45     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-16 11:45       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-02  8:47   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-02  8:47     ` Linus Walleij
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 15/25] irqchip/apple-aic: Add support for the Apple Interrupt Controller Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 18:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-15 18:09     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-22 19:35     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-22 19:35       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-23 17:37       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-23 17:37         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 16/25] arm64: Kconfig: Introduce CONFIG_ARCH_APPLE Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 17/25] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Separate S3C64XX ops structure Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 18:06   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 18:06     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-18 13:24     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-18 13:24       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 18/25] tty: serial: samsung_tty: add s3c24xx_port_type Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 18:26   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 18:26     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-18 13:37     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-18 13:37       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 19/25] tty: serial: samsung_tty: IRQ rework Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 18:40   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 18:40     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-18 13:53     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-18 13:53       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-20 19:11       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-20 19:11         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-21 13:43         ` Hector Martin
2021-02-21 13:43           ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 20/25] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Use devm_ioremap_resource Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 18:51   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 18:51     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-18 14:01     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-18 14:01       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-20 19:13       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-20 19:13         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-20 19:17         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-20 19:17           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-21 14:38           ` Hector Martin
2021-02-21 14:38             ` Hector Martin
2021-02-21 14:59             ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-21 14:59               ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-21 17:09               ` Hector Martin
2021-02-21 17:09                 ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 21/25] dt-bindings: serial: samsung: Add apple,s5l-uart compatible Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` [PATCH v2 21/25] dt-bindings: serial: samsung: Add apple, s5l-uart compatible Hector Martin
2021-02-15 18:53   ` [PATCH v2 21/25] dt-bindings: serial: samsung: Add apple,s5l-uart compatible Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 18:53     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-02  8:31   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-02  8:31     ` [PATCH v2 21/25] dt-bindings: serial: samsung: Add apple, s5l-uart compatible Linus Walleij
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 22/25] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Add support for Apple UARTs Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 19:13   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 19:13     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-18 14:16     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-18 14:16       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 23/25] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Add earlycon " Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 19:17   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 19:17     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-16 10:18     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-16 10:18       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-16 10:20       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-16 10:20         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-16 10:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-16 10:29           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-16 10:50           ` Hector Martin
2021-02-16 10:50             ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 24/25] dt-bindings: display: Add apple,simple-framebuffer Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17 ` [PATCH v2 25/25] arm64: apple: Add initial Mac Mini 2020 (M1) devicetree Hector Martin
2021-02-15 12:17   ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 19:29   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 19:29     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 21:00     ` Randy Dunlap
2021-02-15 21:00       ` Randy Dunlap
2021-02-16  7:31       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-16  7:31         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-21 14:43     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-21 14:43       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-21 15:32       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-21 15:32         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 00/25] Apple M1 SoC platform bring-up Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-15 12:57   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-15 13:22   ` gregkh
2021-02-15 13:22     ` gregkh
2021-02-15 15:57     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 15:57       ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 16:12       ` gregkh
2021-02-15 16:12         ` gregkh
2021-02-15 16:54         ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 16:54           ` Hector Martin
2021-02-15 17:43           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 17:43             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-02-15 19:11             ` Marc Zyngier
2021-02-15 19:11               ` Marc Zyngier
     [not found]             ` <CAHp75Vd2ObiUJFn-kVWBx+E30my9zXVX5iUtsyRb_c4FcZEDOA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-02-23  9:11               ` Hector Martin
2021-02-23  9:11                 ` Hector Martin
2021-02-18 14:36 ` Mark Rutland
2021-02-18 14:36   ` Mark Rutland
2021-02-21 15:20   ` Hector Martin [this message]
2021-02-21 15:20     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-24 15:55     ` Hector Martin
2021-02-24 15:55       ` Hector Martin

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