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From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
To: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
Cc: Nicolas Sebrecht <nicolas.s.dev@gmx.fr>,
	Emmanuel Trillaud <etrillaud@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Moulard <thomas.moulard@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: gitk : french translation
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:30:38 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0911082010590.16711@xanadu.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vpqtyx5nql0.fsf@bauges.imag.fr>

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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Matthieu Moy wrote:

> Nicolas Sebrecht <nicolas.s.dev@gmx.fr> writes:
> 
> >> > - make some consistency changes
> >> >  * s/diff/différences/
> >> >  * s/patch/correctif/ everywhere
> >
> > I disagree here. Words like "diff", "commit", "patch", etc should be
> > kept as is. Translation of those terms make things harder for the users.
> 
> Metoo.
> 
> One day or another, the user will have to face the words "diff",
> "commit" and "patch" even in a 100% french-speaking context (for
> example when requesting help and someone answering "open a terminal
> and type 'git commit --whatever'" or so).
> 
> Matching the command-line concepts and the GUI concepts is made really
> hard by over-translating.

Striking a good balance is the key.  Not translating enough might simply 
look "cheap" to a new user who was not exposed to the concepts in the 
first place.

It is not like if we were facing issues like:

"Made in Turkey" -> "Fait en dinde"

"arm rest and pad assembly" -> "armer le repos et rembourer l'assemblée"

It's like those stu**d people who decided that "email" was too hard to 
translate.  So they declared that "email" was "imél" in French.  
Fortunately some non European people came up with a refreshing idea and 
translated "email" into "courriel" instead.  And with a step back, you 
must admit that "courriel" is so much clearer and more descriptive 
semantically.

Therefore I think that it is a good thing to _try_ to translate stuff 
appropriately.  but this is often much harder than it may seem.

> (and BTW, "correctif" is not a very good translation of "patch", since
> a patch is not necessarilly a correction of something).

In this case I think "retouche" would be a better choice.


Nicolas

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-09  1:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-06 14:05 gitk : french translation Emmanuel Trillaud
2009-11-06 18:16 ` Thomas Moulard
2009-11-06 20:59   ` Emmanuel Trillaud
2009-11-07  2:54     ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-11-08 12:33       ` Matthieu Moy
2009-11-09  1:30         ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2009-11-09  8:39           ` [OT] " Matthieu Moy
2009-11-09  9:24             ` Maximilien Noal
2009-11-08 17:55       ` Emmanuel Trillaud
2009-11-08 21:41         ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-11-08 23:11           ` Maximilien Noal
2009-11-08 23:15             ` Maximilien Noal
2009-11-09  1:24             ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-11-10 17:45 ` Emmanuel Trillaud
2009-11-10 21:02   ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-11-11  0:10   ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-11-11 14:15     ` Thomas Moulard
2009-11-11 16:59       ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-11-11 17:10       ` Emmanuel Trillaud
2009-11-19 19:47     ` Emmanuel Trillaud
2009-11-19 20:01       ` Emmanuel Trillaud
2009-11-19 21:23         ` [PATCHv4] gitk " Emmanuel Trillaud
2009-11-19 23:57           ` [PATCHv4] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-11-20  0:28             ` Emmanuel Trillaud
2009-12-02 10:24     ` gitk : " Emmanuel Trillaud
     [not found]       ` <c558c59b3fe779e8577fe06233d3da5d2711127f.1259795550.git.ni.s@laposte.net>
2009-12-29 22:39         ` [RESEND PATCH] french translation of gitk Nicolas Sebrecht
2010-01-08 13:22           ` Emmanuel Trillaud
2010-01-12 11:21             ` Paul Mackerras
2010-01-12 13:02               ` Emmanuel Trillaud
2010-01-28 13:23                 ` Emmanuel Trillaud
2009-11-10 18:05 ` gitk : french translation Emmanuel Trillaud
2009-11-10 20:47   ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-11-11  1:10     ` Emmanuel Trillaud

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