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* Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 14427] New: ipv6 forward cause strange route
       [not found] <bug-14427-10286@http.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
@ 2009-11-03  6:32 ` Andrew Morton
  2009-11-03 11:06   ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2009-11-03  6:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netdev; +Cc: bugzilla-daemon, bugme-daemon, green


(switched to email.  Please respond via emailed reply-to-all, not via the
bugzilla web interface).

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:42:01 GMT bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org wrote:

> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14427
> 
>            Summary: ipv6 forward cause strange route
>            Product: Networking
>            Version: 2.5
>           Platform: All
>         OS/Version: Linux
>               Tree: Mainline
>             Status: NEW
>           Severity: normal
>           Priority: P1
>          Component: IPV6
>         AssignedTo: yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org
>         ReportedBy: green@msu.ru
>         Regression: No
> 
> 
> When enabling forwarding for IPv6 on interface, in the routing table local
> appears new route. It like route to local ip but with all host bits set to 0.
> Example:
> --------------------------------------------------
>   # cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/forwarding
>   0
>   # ip -6 addr add 2001:db8:1:1::5/64 dev eth0
>   # ip -6 route show table local
>   ...
>   local 2001:db8:1:1::5 via :: dev lo  proto none  metric 0  mtu 16436 advmss
> 16376 hoplimit 4294967295
>   ...
>   # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/forwarding 
>   # ip -6 route show table local
>   ...
>   local 2001:db8:1:1:: via :: dev lo  proto none  metric 0  mtu 16436 advmss
> 16376 hoplimit 4294967295
>   local 2001:db8:1:1::5 via :: dev lo  proto none  metric 0  mtu 16436 advmss
> 16376 hoplimit 4294967295
>   ...
> --------------------------------------------------
> After enabling forwarding, route "2001:db8:1:1:: via :: dev lo" is added. No
> matter, forwarding is enabled before or after adding of address, this route is
> "on" with forwarding and "off" without it.
> Such behavior causes problems with /127 network masks. For example:
> --------------------------------------------------
>   # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/forwarding 
>   # ip -6 addr add 2001:db8:1:1::5/127 dev eth0
>   # ip -6 route add default via 2001:db8:1:1::4
>   RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
> --------------------------------------------------
> But if we disable forwarding (and strange route) when adding needed route, we
> will succeed.
> --------------------------------------------------
>   # echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/forwarding 
>   # ip -6 route add default via 2001:db8:1:1::4
>   # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/forwarding 
> --------------------------------------------------
> Default route remains in the table after enabling forwarding and it is doing in
> work. But in this case we still can not access 2001:db8:1:1::4, because it is
> routed to loopback:
> --------------------------------------------------
>   # ping6 -c 1 2001:db8:1:1::4
>   PING 2001:db8:1:1::4(2001:db8:1:1::4) 56 data bytes
>   64 bytes from 2001:db8:1:1::5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.114 ms
> --------------------------------------------------
> We get reply from self interface.
> 
> This was tested on x86 and x86_64 with 2.6.30 kernel and some previous versions
> on ArchLinux (2.6.30 x86 and x86_64), Ubuntu (2.6.28-15-generic x86_64) and
> gentoo (2.6.30-gentoo-r5 x86_64).
> 


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* Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 14427] New: ipv6 forward cause strange route
  2009-11-03  6:32 ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 14427] New: ipv6 forward cause strange route Andrew Morton
@ 2009-11-03 11:06   ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
  2009-11-03 11:19     ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki @ 2009-11-03 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton, green
  Cc: netdev, bugzilla-daemon, bugme-daemon, yoshfuji, Pekka Savola, davem

Hello.

This is not a bug but a feature of IPv6 called "subnet anycast
address."  The address is automatically assigned on routers.

References:
RFC 2526: Reserved IPv6 Subnet Anycast Addresses
RFC 3627: Use of /127 Prefix Length Between Routers Considered Harmful

--yoshfuji

Andrew Morton wrote:
> (switched to email.  Please respond via emailed reply-to-all, not via the
> bugzilla web interface).
> 
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:42:01 GMT bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org wrote:
> 
>> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14427
>>
>>            Summary: ipv6 forward cause strange route
>>            Product: Networking
>>            Version: 2.5
>>           Platform: All
>>         OS/Version: Linux
>>               Tree: Mainline
>>             Status: NEW
>>           Severity: normal
>>           Priority: P1
>>          Component: IPV6
>>         AssignedTo: yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org
>>         ReportedBy: green@msu.ru
>>         Regression: No
>>
>>
>> When enabling forwarding for IPv6 on interface, in the routing table local
>> appears new route. It like route to local ip but with all host bits set to 0.
>> Example:
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>   # cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/forwarding
>>   0
>>   # ip -6 addr add 2001:db8:1:1::5/64 dev eth0
>>   # ip -6 route show table local
>>   ...
>>   local 2001:db8:1:1::5 via :: dev lo  proto none  metric 0  mtu 16436 advmss
>> 16376 hoplimit 4294967295
>>   ...
>>   # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/forwarding 
>>   # ip -6 route show table local
>>   ...
>>   local 2001:db8:1:1:: via :: dev lo  proto none  metric 0  mtu 16436 advmss
>> 16376 hoplimit 4294967295
>>   local 2001:db8:1:1::5 via :: dev lo  proto none  metric 0  mtu 16436 advmss
>> 16376 hoplimit 4294967295
>>   ...
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> After enabling forwarding, route "2001:db8:1:1:: via :: dev lo" is added. No
>> matter, forwarding is enabled before or after adding of address, this route is
>> "on" with forwarding and "off" without it.
>> Such behavior causes problems with /127 network masks. For example:
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>   # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/forwarding 
>>   # ip -6 addr add 2001:db8:1:1::5/127 dev eth0
>>   # ip -6 route add default via 2001:db8:1:1::4
>>   RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> But if we disable forwarding (and strange route) when adding needed route, we
>> will succeed.
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>   # echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/forwarding 
>>   # ip -6 route add default via 2001:db8:1:1::4
>>   # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/forwarding 
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> Default route remains in the table after enabling forwarding and it is doing in
>> work. But in this case we still can not access 2001:db8:1:1::4, because it is
>> routed to loopback:
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>   # ping6 -c 1 2001:db8:1:1::4
>>   PING 2001:db8:1:1::4(2001:db8:1:1::4) 56 data bytes
>>   64 bytes from 2001:db8:1:1::5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.114 ms
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> We get reply from self interface.
>>
>> This was tested on x86 and x86_64 with 2.6.30 kernel and some previous versions
>> on ArchLinux (2.6.30 x86 and x86_64), Ubuntu (2.6.28-15-generic x86_64) and
>> gentoo (2.6.30-gentoo-r5 x86_64).
>>
> 
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* Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 14427] New: ipv6 forward cause strange route
  2009-11-03 11:06   ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
@ 2009-11-03 11:19     ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
  2009-11-04  8:01       ` Pekka Savola
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki @ 2009-11-03 11:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton, green
  Cc: netdev, bugzilla-daemon, bugme-daemon, Pekka Savola, davem

I wrote:
> This is not a bug but a feature of IPv6 called "subnet anycast
> address."  The address is automatically assigned on routers.
> 
> References:
> RFC 2526: Reserved IPv6 Subnet Anycast Addresses
> RFC 3627: Use of /127 Prefix Length Between Routers Considered Harmful

I should say "Subnet-router anycast address" and
RFC3513: Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Addressing
Architecture".

Sorry for confusion.

--yoshfuji

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* Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 14427] New: ipv6 forward cause strange route
  2009-11-03 11:19     ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
@ 2009-11-04  8:01       ` Pekka Savola
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Pekka Savola @ 2009-11-04  8:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
  Cc: Andrew Morton, green, netdev, bugzilla-daemon, bugme-daemon, davem

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, YOSHIFUJI Hideaki wrote:
>>  RFC 2526: Reserved IPv6 Subnet Anycast Addresses
>>  RFC 3627: Use of /127 Prefix Length Between Routers Considered Harmful
>
> I should say "Subnet-router anycast address" and
> RFC3513: Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Addressing
> Architecture".

FWIW, please note that commercial vendors haven't implemented this 
very extensively, and there's also some recent activity arguing this 
is not very useful:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kohno-ipv6-prefixlen-p2p-00

We'll likely get better idea how folks react to this during the next 
week's IETF.

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings

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