From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "Ertman, David M" <david.m.ertman@intel.com>
Cc: "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
"tiwai@suse.de" <tiwai@suse.de>,
"Sridharan, Ranjani" <ranjani.sridharan@intel.com>,
"pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com"
<pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
"broonie@kernel.org" <broonie@kernel.org>,
"parav@nvidia.com" <parav@nvidia.com>,
"jgg@nvidia.com" <jgg@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Ancillary bus implementation and SOF multi-client support
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 11:09:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201003090951.GE114893@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201003090855.GD114893@kroah.com>
On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 11:08:55AM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 08:23:49PM +0000, Ertman, David M wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 12:14 AM
> > > To: Ertman, David M <david.m.ertman@intel.com>
> > > Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org; tiwai@suse.de; broonie@kernel.org; pierre-
> > > louis.bossart@linux.intel.com; Sridharan, Ranjani
> > > <ranjani.sridharan@intel.com>; jgg@nvidia.com; parav@nvidia.com
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Ancillary bus implementation and SOF multi-client
> > > support
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 03:50:45PM -0700, Dave Ertman wrote:
> > > > The ancillary bus (then known as virtual bus) was originally submitted
> > > > along with implementation code for the ice driver and irdma drive,
> > > > causing the complication of also having dependencies in the rdma tree.
> > > > This new submission is utilizing an ancillary bus consumer in only the
> > > > sound driver tree to create the initial implementation and a single
> > > > user.
> > >
> > > So this will not work for the ice driver and/or irdma drivers? It would
> > > be great to see how they work for this as well as getting those
> > > maintainers to review and sign off on this implementation as well.
> > > Don't ignore those developers, that's a bit "odd", don't you think?
> > >
> > > To drop them from the review process is actually kind of rude, what
> > > happens if this gets merged without their input?
> > >
> > > And the name, why was it changed and what does it mean? For non-native
> > > english speakers this is going to be rough, given that I as a native
> > > english speaker had to go look up the word in a dictionary to fully
> > > understand what you are trying to do with that name.
> >
> > Through our internal review process, objections were raised on naming the
> > new bus virtual bus. The main objection was that virtual bus was too close to virtio,
> > virtchnl, etc., that /sys/bus/virtual would be confused with /sys/bus/virtio, and
> > there is just a lot of 'virt' stuff in the kernel already.
>
> We already have a virtual bus/location in the driver model today, has
> that confused anyone? I see this as an extension of that logic and
> ideally, those users will be moved over to this interface over time as
> well.
>
> > Several names were suggested (like peer bus, which was shot down because in
> > parts on the English speaking world the peerage means nobility), finally
> > "ancillary bus" was arrived at by consensus of not hating it.
>
> "not hating it", while sometimes is a good thing, for something that I
> am going to have to tell everyone to go use, I would like to at least
> "like it". And right now I don't like it...
>
> I think we should go back to "virtual" for now, or, if the people who
> didn't like it on your "internal" reviews wish to participate here and
> defend their choice, I would be glad to listen to that reasoning.
Also, the fact that we are even talking about a core kernel function on
only the alsa-devel list is pretty horrible. I'm just going to drop
this whole thread and wait until you can submit it properly before
responding anymore on it.
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-03 9:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-30 22:50 [PATCH 0/6] Ancillary bus implementation and SOF multi-client support Dave Ertman
2020-09-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 1/6] Add ancillary bus support Dave Ertman
2020-09-30 23:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-01 11:01 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 11:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-01 11:54 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 12:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-01 12:15 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 18:26 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-01 11:02 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 16:30 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-01 11:05 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 11:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-01 12:14 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 14:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-01 14:38 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 16:06 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-10-01 17:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-01 14:39 ` Parav Pandit
2020-10-01 14:43 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 13:27 ` Mark Brown
2020-09-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 2/6] ASoC: SOF: Introduce descriptors for SOF client Dave Ertman
2020-10-01 13:02 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 15:59 ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2020-10-01 22:16 ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2020-10-02 4:53 ` gregkh
2020-10-02 17:07 ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2020-10-03 9:02 ` gregkh
2020-10-05 2:35 ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2020-10-05 11:27 ` gregkh
2020-10-05 15:18 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-10-05 15:32 ` gregkh
2020-10-01 13:38 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-01 16:48 ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2020-09-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 3/6] ASoC: SOF: Create client driver for IPC test Dave Ertman
2020-10-01 13:04 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 16:46 ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2020-10-01 13:09 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 13:55 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-10-01 16:48 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-01 13:59 ` Mark Brown
2020-09-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 4/6] ASoC: SOF: ops: Add ops for client registration Dave Ertman
2020-09-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 5/6] ASoC: SOF: Intel: Define " Dave Ertman
2020-09-30 22:50 ` [PATCH 6/6] ASoC: SOF: debug: Remove IPC flood test support in SOF core Dave Ertman
2020-10-01 5:58 ` [PATCH 0/6] Ancillary bus implementation and SOF multi-client support Greg KH
2020-10-01 15:54 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-01 7:14 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 15:55 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-01 16:10 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 17:13 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-02 20:23 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-03 9:08 ` Greg KH
2020-10-03 9:09 ` Greg KH [this message]
2020-10-04 2:26 ` Parav Pandit
2020-10-04 23:45 ` Williams, Dan J
2020-10-05 1:18 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-05 2:39 ` Parav Pandit
2020-10-05 11:25 ` gregkh
2020-10-06 22:40 ` Dan Williams
2020-10-07 9:14 ` gregkh
2020-10-07 16:19 ` Dan Williams
2020-10-07 16:22 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-07 16:41 ` Dan Williams
2020-10-07 16:42 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-10-07 16:56 ` Parav Pandit
2020-10-01 10:05 ` Rojewski, Cezary
2020-10-01 10:59 ` gregkh
2020-10-01 12:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-01 12:55 ` gregkh
2020-10-01 13:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-01 14:17 ` gregkh
2020-10-01 15:08 ` Parav Pandit
2020-10-01 12:50 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-01 13:12 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 13:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-01 14:40 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-01 15:32 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 16:03 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-01 18:16 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 18:29 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-01 19:38 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-01 19:54 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-01 20:17 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-02 0:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-02 11:19 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-02 17:23 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-02 17:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-02 17:44 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-01 14:07 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-10-01 15:24 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-01 16:20 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2020-10-01 16:51 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-01 18:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-01 18:13 ` Greg KH
2020-10-01 19:23 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-01 16:50 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-01 17:10 ` Mark Brown
2020-10-01 17:16 ` Ertman, David M
2020-10-01 17:52 ` Ertman, David M
[not found] <20201001050534.890666-1-david.m.ertman@intel.com>
2020-10-03 9:04 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-10-03 9:10 ` Greg KH
2020-10-03 9:24 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-10-03 9:32 ` Greg KH
2020-10-05 1:20 ` Ertman, David M
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