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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <arnaldo.melo@gmail.com>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Cc: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>,
	"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andriin@fb.com>, "Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>,
	"Song Liu" <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <kafai@fb.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@intel.com>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] bpf: Add trampoline and dispatcher to /proc/kallsyms
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 10:31:25 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200212133125.GA22501@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200212111346.GF183981@krava>

Em Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 12:13:46PM +0100, Jiri Olsa escreveu:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 04:32:23PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > Historically vmlinux was preferred because it contains function sizes,
> > but with all these out of the blue symbols, we need to prefer starting
> > with /proc/kallsyms and, as we do now, continue getting updates via
> > PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL.

> > Humm, but then trampolines don't generate that, right? Or does it? If it
> > doesn't, then we will know about just the trampolines in place when the
> > record/top session starts, reparsing /proc/kallsyms periodically seems
> > excessive?

> I plan to extend the KSYMBOL interface to contain trampolines/dispatcher
> data,

That seems like the sensible, without looking too much at all the
details, to do, yes.

> plus we could do some inteligent fallback to /proc/kallsyms in case
> vmlinux won't have anything

At this point what would be the good reason to prefer vmlinux instead of
going straight to using /proc/kallsyms?

We have support for taking a snapshot of it at 'perf top' start, i.e.
right at the point we need to resolve a kernel symbol, then we get
PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL for things that gets in place after that.

And as well we save it to the build-id cache so that later, at 'perf
report/script' time we can resolve kernel symbols, etc.

vmlinux is just what is in there right before boot, after that, for
quite some time, _lots_ of stuff happens :-)

- Arnaldo

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-12 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-08 15:41 [PATCH 00/14] bpf: Add trampoline and dispatcher to /proc/kallsyms Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 01/14] x86/mm: Rename is_kernel_text to __is_kernel_text Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 02/14] bpf: Add bpf_trampoline_ name prefix for DECLARE_BPF_DISPATCHER Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 03/14] bpf: Add struct bpf_ksym Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 04/14] bpf: Add name to " Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 05/14] bpf: Add lnode list node " Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 06/14] bpf: Add bpf_kallsyms_tree tree Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 18:21   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-12 10:49     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 07/14] bpf: Move bpf_tree add/del from bpf_prog_ksym_node_add/del Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 08/14] bpf: Separate kallsyms add/del functions Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 09/14] bpf: Add bpf_ksym_add/del functions Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 10/14] bpf: Re-initialize lnode in bpf_ksym_del Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 18:28   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-12 10:43     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 11/14] bpf: Rename bpf_tree to bpf_progs_tree Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 12/14] bpf: Add trampolines to kallsyms Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 18:51   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-12 11:10     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-12 16:33       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-12 22:58         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-12 23:02         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 13/14] bpf: Add dispatchers " Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 19:03   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-12 10:52     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 14/14] bpf: Sort bpf kallsyms symbols Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 19:12   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-10 15:51 ` [PATCH 00/14] bpf: Add trampoline and dispatcher to /proc/kallsyms Björn Töpel
2020-02-10 16:17   ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 19:32     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-02-12 11:13       ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-12 13:31         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2020-02-12 22:40           ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-13 16:23   ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 19:13 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-02-12 10:46   ` Jiri Olsa

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