From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Daniel Stone <daniel@fooishbar.org>
Cc: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>,
James Jones <jajones@nvidia.com>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa.rosenzweig@collabora.com>,
Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm for 5.8-rc1
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 19:25:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uFsTP-tN49SKJhm9w49EF3Ars0c1bF4=iUrEtKHCLzCTg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPj87rMXXTNntwYk=58tVRRkjvYJb-+a=bnzJZjWJv21v_+7KQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:17 PM Daniel Stone <daniel@fooishbar.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 17:22, Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I suspect that the reason why this works in X but not in Wayland is
> > because X passes the right usage flags, whereas Weston may not. But I'll
> > have to investigate more in order to be sure.
>
> Weston allocates its own buffers for displaying the result of
> composition through GBM with USE_SCANOUT, which is definitely correct.
>
> Wayland clients (common to all compositors, in Mesa's
> src/egl/drivers/dri2/platform_wayland.c) allocate with USE_SHARED but
> _not_ USE_SCANOUT, which is correct in that they are guaranteed to be
> shared, but not guaranteed to be scanned out. The expectation is that
> non-scanout-compatible buffers would be rejected by gbm_bo_import if
> not drmModeAddFB2.
>
> One difference between Weston and all other compositors (GNOME Shell,
> KWin, Sway, etc) is that Weston uses KMS planes for composition when
> it can (i.e. when gbm_bo_import from dmabuf + drmModeAddFB2 from
> gbm_bo handle + atomic check succeed), but the other compositors only
> use the GPU. So if you have different assumptions about the layout of
> imported buffers between the GPU and KMS, that would explain a fair
> bit.
Yeah non-modifiered multi-gpu (of any kind) is pretty much hopeless I
think. I guess the only option is if the tegra mesa driver forces
linear and an extra copy on everything that's USE_SHARED or
USE_SCANOUT.
> > Perhaps we can go and release X 1.21.0 with that modifier enablement
> > patch and that'll motivate desktops to adopt it as well as the default?
>
> Unfortunately we don't really have a good way out of this one. They
> were disabled because the non-modifier path on Intel can be linear or
> X-tiled (row-major), whereas the modifier path enables Y-tiled
> (column-major) and compressed layouts. Y-tiled is the most efficient,
> but Intel could only spare about six transistors for the global FIFO
> shared between all their plane fetch engines, and Y-tiled blows
> straight through it. Both X and Shell would thus fail to enable high
> resolutions or many heads (2x 4K is enough even on modern platforms
> IIRC), so they just turned modifiers off.
>
> The best solution would be to do a global atomic_check across all
> outputs and just blacklist modifiers until you find one which works,
> but Shell doesn't yet have that code, and -modesetting ... well,
> no-one's volunteered to do that yet, or probably ever.
Yeah best bet for modifiered X is Xwayland on top of weston right now :-/
-Daniel
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Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-02 6:06 [git pull] drm for 5.8-rc1 Dave Airlie
2020-06-02 21:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-02 21:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-02 21:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-03 7:18 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-06-03 7:43 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-02 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-02 23:03 ` Dave Airlie
2020-06-02 22:20 ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-06-03 20:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-06-04 8:10 ` Christian König
2020-06-30 23:08 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-07-01 4:40 ` James Jones
2020-07-01 7:57 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-07-01 7:59 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-07-01 19:45 ` James Jones
2020-07-02 7:36 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-02 7:59 ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-07-02 8:22 ` Daniel Stone
2020-07-02 21:14 ` James Jones
2020-07-03 6:01 ` James Jones
2020-07-03 7:16 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-13 1:37 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-14 14:31 ` James Jones
2020-08-04 8:58 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 0:19 ` James Jones
2020-08-12 10:27 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 10:43 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 12:24 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 12:37 ` Ilia Mirkin
2020-08-12 17:03 ` James Jones
2020-08-12 17:10 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 17:19 ` James Jones
2020-08-12 17:40 ` Alyssa Rosenzweig
2020-08-12 18:24 ` James Jones
2020-08-12 18:51 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-13 13:00 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-13 15:39 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-13 17:19 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-13 17:45 ` James Jones
2020-08-13 17:48 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 13:57 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 13:59 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 14:10 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 14:05 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 14:44 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 15:34 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 15:40 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 16:06 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 16:12 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 16:22 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 17:17 ` Daniel Stone
2020-08-14 17:25 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2020-08-18 14:37 ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-01 7:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-01 10:42 ` Daniel Stone
2020-09-01 10:59 ` Karol Herbst
2020-09-01 14:42 ` James Jones
2020-08-14 14:08 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 14:45 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 15:24 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 15:43 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 13:54 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 13:40 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 13:56 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 15:05 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-12 15:20 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 15:49 ` Karol Herbst
2020-07-01 11:24 ` Karol Herbst
2020-07-01 15:51 ` James Jones
2020-07-01 16:01 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-01 17:04 ` Karol Herbst
2020-07-01 17:37 ` James Jones
2020-07-01 18:08 ` Karol Herbst
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