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From: Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>,
	"Pekka Paalanen" <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
Cc: "Cyr, Aric" <Aric.Cyr@amd.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	sebastian@sebastianwick.net
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 02/22] drm: Add Enhanced Gamma and color lut range attributes
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 10:17:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c94046bc-a083-278a-c9ec-738716da889d@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YYuzGhHZiMQ79h8l@intel.com>



On 2021-11-10 06:55, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 10:49:24AM +0200, Pekka Paalanen wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 00:02:16 +0200
>> Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 03:47:58PM -0500, Harry Wentland wrote:
>>>> On 2021-11-08 04:54, Pekka Paalanen wrote:  
>>>>> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 12:27:56 -0400
>>>>> Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com> wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>> On 2021-11-04 04:38, Pekka Paalanen wrote:  
>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 11:08:13 -0400
>>>>>>> Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>> On 2021-09-06 17:38, Uma Shankar wrote:    
>>>>>>>>> Existing LUT precision structure is having only 16 bit
>>>>>>>>> precision. This is not enough for upcoming enhanced hardwares
>>>>>>>>> and advance usecases like HDR processing. Hence added a new
>>>>>>>>> structure with 32 bit precision values.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This also defines a new structure to define color lut ranges,
>>>>>>>>> along with related macro definitions and enums. This will help
>>>>>>>>> describe multi segmented lut ranges in the hardware.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Uma Shankar <uma.shankar@intel.com>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>  include/uapi/drm/drm_mode.h | 58 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>  1 file changed, 58 insertions(+)
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>>>> If the framebuffer is not in FP16 the question then becomes how
>>>>>> the integer pixel values relate to LUT addressing.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Traditionally, and in any API I've seen (GL, Vulkan), a usual mapping
>>>>> is to match minimum unsigned integer value to 0.0, and unsigned maximum
>>>>> integer value to 1.0. This is how things work on the cable too, right?
>>>>> (Also taking full vs. limited range video signal into account. And
>>>>> conversion to cable-YUV if that happens.)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want integer format FB values to map to something else, then you
>>>>> have to tag the FB with that range information, somehow. New UAPI.
>>>>>   
>>>>
>>>> On the cable we send integer values, not floating point. AMD HW uses
>>>> floating point internally, though, and the PWL API defines floating
>>>> point entries, so on some level we need to be clear what the floating
>>>> point entries mean. Either we document that to be [0.0, 1.0] or we
>>>> have some UAPI to define it. I'm leaning toward the latter but have
>>>> to think about it some more.  
>>>
>>> As for Intel hw if you have an integer pixel value of 0xff... (with
>>> however many bits you have with a specific pixel format) it will get
>>> extended to 0.fff... (to whatever precision the pipe has internally).
>>> So if we go by that a fixed point 1.0 value in the proposed
>>> drm_color_lut_range would be considered just outside the gamut. And
>>> pretty sure fp16 input of 1.0 should also result in a 0.fff... internal
>>> value as well [1]. I think that definition pretty much matches how GL
>>> UNORM<->float conversion works as well.
>>
>> Does it work that way in GL though?
>>
>> I've always thought that with GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE, 0xff maps to 1.0, not
>> 255.0/256.0.
>>
>> Taking a random spec: OpenGL ES 2.0.25
>>
>> Section 2.1.2 Data Conversions says:
>>
>> 	Normalized unsigned integers represent numbers in the range
>> 	[0, 1]. The conversion from a normalized unsigned integer c to
>> 	the corresponding floating-point f is defined as
>> 	f = c / (2^b - 1)
>>
>> Note how the divisor has -1.
> 
> That seems to match what I said, or at least tried to say (~0 <-> 1.0 in
> float). drm_color_lut_range being fixed point would follow the ~0 side of
> that. Or at least that interpretation would very easily map to our hw.
> 

If I understand you right Intel HW represents 0xff (assuming 8 bpc) as
the largest (representable) float that is less than 1.0. That float would
be bigger than 255.0/256.0 but smaller than 256.0/256.0.

Harry


  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-10 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-06 21:38 [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 00/22] Add Support for Plane Color Lut and CSC features Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:26 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for Add Support for Plane Color Lut and CSC features (rev2) Patchwork
2021-09-06 21:30 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 01/22] drm: RFC for Plane Color Hardware Pipeline Uma Shankar
2021-10-12 10:30   ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-10-12 10:35     ` Simon Ser
2021-10-12 12:00       ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-10-12 19:11         ` Shankar, Uma
2021-10-13  7:25           ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-10-14 19:46             ` Shankar, Uma
2021-10-12 20:58     ` Shankar, Uma
2021-10-13  8:30       ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-10-14 19:44         ` Shankar, Uma
2021-10-15  7:42           ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-10-26 15:11             ` Harry Wentland
2021-10-26 15:36           ` Harry Wentland
2021-10-27  8:00             ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-10-27 12:48               ` Harry Wentland
2021-10-26 15:40       ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-23 15:05   ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-25 20:43     ` Shankar, Uma
2021-11-26  8:21       ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 02/22] drm: Add Enhanced Gamma and color lut range attributes Uma Shankar
2021-11-03 15:08   ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-04  8:38     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-11-04 16:27       ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-05 11:49         ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-09 20:22           ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-08  9:54         ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-11-09 20:47           ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-09 22:02             ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-10  8:49               ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-11-10 11:55                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-10 15:17                   ` Harry Wentland [this message]
2021-11-11  8:22                     ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 03/22] drm: Add Plane Degamma Mode property Uma Shankar
2021-10-12 11:50   ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-10-12 21:02     ` Shankar, Uma
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 04/22] drm: Add Plane Degamma Lut property Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 05/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Define Degamma Lut range struct for HDR planes Uma Shankar
2021-11-03 15:10   ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-05 12:59     ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-09 20:19       ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-09 21:45         ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-09 21:56           ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-11 15:17   ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-11 16:42     ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-11 20:42       ` Shankar, Uma
2021-11-11 21:10         ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-11 21:58           ` Shankar, Uma
2021-11-12  8:37             ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-11-23 14:40               ` Harry Wentland
2021-11-12 14:54           ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-11-16  8:15             ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 06/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Add register definitions for Plane Degamma Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 07/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Enable plane color features Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 08/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Add color capabilities of SDR planes Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 09/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Program Plane Degamma Registers Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 10/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Add plane color check to glk_plane_color_ctl Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 11/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Initialize plane color features Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 12/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Load plane color luts from atomic flip Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 13/22] drm: Add Plane CTM property Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 14/22] drm: Add helper to attach Plane ctm property Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 15/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Define Plane CSC Registers Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 16/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Enable Plane CSC Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:38 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 17/22] drm: Add Plane Gamma Mode property Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:39 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 18/22] drm: Add Plane Gamma Lut property Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:39 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 19/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Define and Initialize Plane Gamma Lut range Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:39 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 20/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Add register definitions for Plane Gamma Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:39 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 21/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Program Plane Gamma Registers Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:39 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 22/22] drm/i915/xelpd: Enable plane gamma Uma Shankar
2021-09-06 21:57 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success for Add Support for Plane Color Lut and CSC features (rev2) Patchwork
2021-09-06 23:12 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure " Patchwork
2021-10-12 11:55 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC v2 00/22] Add Support for Plane Color Lut and CSC features Pekka Paalanen
2021-10-12 21:01   ` Shankar, Uma
2021-10-26 15:02     ` Harry Wentland
2021-10-27  8:18       ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-02 16:11 ` Harry Wentland
2022-02-03 17:22   ` Shankar, Uma

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