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From: valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu
To: Lev Olshvang <levonshe@yandex.com>
Cc: linux-il <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il>,
	kernelnewbies <kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel default security configuration - how it affects LSM policy?
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 22:26:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <134786.1543202801@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
Message-ID: <20181126032641.KxR83mi841AXh0xX86NWuZ5t3pT8Ptau307_ZDxTehs@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2782681542810050@sas1-890ba5c2334a.qloud-c.yandex.net>


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On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:20:50 +0300, Lev Olshvang said:

> So the questioned config option seems obsolete ?
> Wheher LSM always consulted last ?

If an LSM is configured/loaded, it is always consulted *after* applying
standard DAC file permission bits checks. (Discretionary Access Control- the
owner of the file/object is allowed to make their own decisions)

LSMs are always restrictive MAC (Mandatory access control - they are applied by
the system regardless of what the user/owner wants) calls. Restrictive means
they can only prohibit a call that has already passed the DAC check, they
cannot allow a call that would otherwise be failed by DAC.

LSMs are called after DAC checks for a number of reasons. One big one
is that when the LSM hooks were designed, the file permission checks were
(and still are) incredibly cheap - 3-4 opcodes or so.  So it makes sense to
do the cheap check first, as things like SELinux or AppArmor take a lot
more cycles to do the check. (There's also a few oddball corner cases where
doing the MAC check first results in non-intuitive results)




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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-26  3:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-21 14:20 Kernel default security configuration - how it affects LSM policy? Lev Olshvang
2018-11-21 14:20 ` Lev Olshvang
2018-11-24 16:55 ` Lev Olshvang
2018-11-24 16:55   ` Lev Olshvang
2018-11-26  3:26 ` valdis.kletnieks at vt.edu [this message]
2018-11-26  3:26   ` valdis.kletnieks

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