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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Jessica Yu <jeyu@redhat.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] modules:capabilities: add a per-task modules autoload restriction
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 19:41:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrUueOx1tqj+Ru93KGpy2HHR-A_GQ6DrAppiomkPTtX7Lw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJ5dm8yJJ34tEyOP78OxUr2awXmNhm6RaVP8jE4q+L5Ng@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> +/* Sets task's modules_autoload */
>>> +static inline int task_set_modules_autoload(struct task_struct *task,
>>> +                                           unsigned long value)
>>> +{
>>> +       if (value > MODULES_AUTOLOAD_DISABLED)
>>> +               return -EINVAL;
>>> +       else if (task->modules_autoload > value)
>>> +               return -EPERM;
>>> +       else if (task->modules_autoload < value)
>>> +               task->modules_autoload = value;
>>> +
>>> +       return 0;
>>> +}
>>
>> This needs to be more locked down.  Otherwise someone could set this
>> and then run a setuid program.  Admittedly, it would be quite odd if
>> this particular thing causes a problem, but the issue exists
>> nonetheless.
>
> Eeeh, I don't agree this needs to be changed. APIs provided by modules
> are different than the existing privilege-manipulation syscalls this
> concern stems from. Applications are already forced to deal with
> things being missing like this in the face of it simply not being
> built into the kernel.
>
> Having to hide this behind nnp seems like it'd reduce its utility...
>

I think that adding an inherited boolean to task_struct that can be
set by unprivileged tasks and passed to privileged tasks is a terrible
precedent.  Ideally someone would try to find all the existing things
like this and kill them off.

I agree that I don't see how one would exploit this particular
feature, but I still think I dislike the approach.  This is a slippery
slope to adding a boolean for perf_event_open(), unshare(), etc, and
we should solve these for real rather than half-arsing them IMO.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-20  2:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-19 22:20 [PATCH v3 0/2] modules:capabilities: automatic module loading restrictions Djalal Harouni
2017-04-19 22:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] modules:capabilities: automatic module loading restriction Djalal Harouni
2017-04-19 23:16   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20  2:22   ` Ben Hutchings
2017-04-20 12:44     ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2017-04-20 15:02       ` Ben Hutchings
     [not found]         ` <1492700543.31767.23.camel-/+tVBieCtBitmTQ+vhA3Yw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-20 20:39           ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
     [not found]             ` <CAEiveUdFL53XyQpacmN6f8F28M0bLQDcetpRXJjrJ10vDmQi8Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-20 21:28               ` Kees Cook
2017-04-19 22:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] modules:capabilities: add a per-task modules autoload restriction Djalal Harouni
2017-04-19 23:15   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-19 23:43     ` Kees Cook
2017-04-20  2:41       ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrUueOx1tqj+Ru93KGpy2HHR-A_GQ6DrAppiomkPTtX7Lw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-21 23:19           ` Kees Cook
2017-04-21 23:28             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-21 23:40               ` Kees Cook
2017-04-21 23:51                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-22  0:12                   ` Djalal Harouni
     [not found]                     ` <CAEiveUcx8fwQgXdLPeMNsTjX2KPhQKH__a-XzcHko_1aCmh4sg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-22  1:19                       ` Djalal Harouni
2017-04-22  6:51                       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CALCETrUT73CcPQx2T=1zWbOUhw9r-c_YqXw5-KTwxgWPgXuTwA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-22 19:29                           ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                             ` <CAGXu5jLV+WZyj+xnxVFkFEgEthNt6eXdcSgHT-=85mJ1ECZ1Rw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-24 14:25                               ` Djalal Harouni
2017-04-24 18:02                                 ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                                   ` <CAGXu5jL_-cxidy_O4ORaN0iX9o7=hsi3DYTRvQs5w5363Z+MVg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-24 18:35                                     ` Djalal Harouni
2017-04-21 23:52               ` Casey Schaufler
2017-04-22  0:00                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-22  0:13                   ` Casey Schaufler
2017-04-22  6:45                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-22 12:17               ` Djalal Harouni
     [not found]                 ` <CAEiveUdbQcfn1xC5xWMv91vL_uR1MGTvARqw-E4GDTMUZ6t=bA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04 13:07                   ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-04 14:58                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-05-05 13:06                       ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-05 16:18                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-20  1:57   ` kbuild test robot
     [not found]   ` <1492640420-27345-3-git-send-email-tixxdz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 22:38     ` Djalal Harouni
2017-04-24  4:29     ` Rusty Russell
2017-04-26  9:06       ` Djalal Harouni
2017-04-27  2:07         ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]           ` <87k266hacq.fsf-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-27 13:16             ` Djalal Harouni

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