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From: Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Bjorn Andersson
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/5] soc: qcom: Introduce APCS IPC driver
Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 08:03:53 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABb+yY2LoX_rOSCkhnp-gS7EHTN+98xNn2E1+z7_7bFjQ2wtoA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170509191106.GQ15143@minitux>

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Bjorn Andersson
<bjorn.andersson-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Tue 09 May 09:41 PDT 2017, Jassi Brar wrote:


>>
>> >> >> The client should call mbox_client_txdone() after
>> >> >> mbox_send_message().
>> >> >
>> >> > So every time we call mbox_send_message() from any of the client drivers
>> >> > we also needs to call mbox_client_txdone()?
>> >> >
>> >> Yes.
>> >>
>> >> > This seems like an awkward side effect of using the mailbox framework -
>> >> > which has to be spread out in at least 6 different client drivers :(
>> >> >
>> >> No. Mailbox or whatever you implement - you must (and do) tick the
>> >> state machine to keep the messages moving.
>> >
>> > But the state you have in the other mailbox drivers is not a concern of
>> > the APCS IPC.
>> >
>> No, as you say above you check for space before writing the next
>> message, this is what I call ticking the state machine.
>>
>
> Sure, but you're talking about the mailbox state machine. The APCS IPC
> doesn't have states.  The _only_ thing that the APCS IPC provides is a
> mechanism for informing the other side that "hey there's something to
> do". So it doesn't matter if there's already a pending "hey there's
> something to do", because adding another will still only be "hey there's
> something to do".
>
> I'm just trying to describe the big picture, but you keep confusing the
> mailbox/doorbell responsibilities with the client's responsibilities.
>
I think I do understand the bigger picture...

The client driver sets up data packet in SHM and submit a "doorbell"
to be ringed. The controller driver simply sets some bit to trigger an
irq on the remote side (doorbell). And before submitting a "doorbell"
the client makes sure there is some space for data packet to be
written. Right?  You see, in the big picture you do have a
state-machine.

                 [Message to send]
                               |
                               |
           |-------------->|
           | No             |
           |                   |
           |___[Space Available?]
                               |
                               |Yes
                               |
                               |
                  [ Setup Data in SHM]
                               |
                              V
                    [Ring Doorbell]


Mailbox framework supports this whole picture. There is even a
callback (tx_prepare) to setup data packet just before the doorbell is
to be rung.

>> BTW, this is an option only if your client driver doesn't want to
>> explicitly tick the state machine by calling mbox_client_txdone()...
>> which I think should be done in the first place.
>>
>
> There is no state of the APCS IPC, so the overhead is created by the
> mailbox framework.
>
Overhead remains the same if you move the check from your client
drivers to last_tx_done.
OR your client driver, rightfully, drive the state machine by calling
mbox_client_txdone() like other platforms.

                 [Message to send]<----------|
                               |                             |
                               |                             |
           |-------------->|                             |
           | No             |                             |
           |                   |                             |
           |___[Space Available?]             |
                               |                             |
                               |Yes                       |
                               |                             |
                              V                             |
                  [Setup Data in SHM]           |
                               |                              |
                              V                              |
                 mbox_send_message()        |
                               |                               |
                              V                              |
                 mbox_client_txdone()           |
                               |                              |
                               V______________|


> The part where this piece of hardware differs from the other mailboxes
> is that TX is done as send_data() returns and in the realm of the
> mailbox there is no such thing as "tx done". So how about we extend the
> framework to handle stateless and message-less doorbells?
>
This is a very common usecase. It would be unfair to other platforms
to modify the API just because you find it awkward to call
mbox_client_txdone() right after mbox_send_message(). For example,
drivers/firmware/tegra/bpmp.c
I'd much rather have mbox_send_message_and_tick() than implant a new api.

Thanks.
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-10  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-04 20:05 [PATCH v4 1/5] mailbox: Make startup and shutdown ops optional Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-04 20:05 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] dt-bindings: mailbox: Introduce Qualcomm APCS global binding Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-04 20:05 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] soc: qcom: Introduce APCS IPC driver Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-05 10:26   ` Jassi Brar
2017-05-05 18:37     ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-05 19:22       ` Jassi Brar
     [not found]         ` <CABb+yY03imq8911rF9dHJjG_a_aosksA=tgk7Rog5AZSezHDyg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 19:53           ` Jeffrey Hugo
2017-05-05 20:22             ` Jassi Brar
2017-05-05 20:39               ` Jeffrey Hugo
     [not found]               ` <CABb+yY1K3Hyn7CzQCA6tHu-KrPigARc3cYgBdT8PNX7vjhPK0g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-06  1:19                 ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-06  4:48                   ` Jassi Brar
2017-05-08  5:54                     ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-08  6:47                       ` Jassi Brar
2017-05-08 19:11                         ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-09 16:41                           ` Jassi Brar
     [not found]                             ` <CABb+yY2uC6vNFTq1KtZwrrw8x4BEfc2cMjF5DwrLbGpYWBNBzQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-09 19:11                               ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-10  2:33                                 ` Jassi Brar [this message]
2017-05-10 19:00                                   ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-11  2:07                                     ` Jassi Brar
2017-05-12 22:48                                       ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-16 11:25                                         ` Jassi Brar
2017-05-04 20:05 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] soc: qcom: Add device tree binding for GLINK RPM Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-08 17:06   ` Rob Herring
2017-05-08 17:53     ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-05-04 20:05 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] rpmsg: Introduce Qualcomm RPM glink driver Bjorn Andersson
     [not found] ` <20170504200539.27027-1-bjorn.andersson-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05  9:35   ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mailbox: Make startup and shutdown ops optional Sudeep Holla
2017-05-05 10:33   ` Jassi Brar
2017-05-05 18:21     ` Bjorn Andersson

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