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From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Max Englander <max.englander@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] audit: optionally print warning after waiting to enqueue record
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 14:47:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhSotFw2i7HzWrHUyc6VSbwTpv8ZBeP58H_mzi6bd=Uouw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200616045855.GA1699@linux-kernel-dev>

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:58 AM Max Englander <max.englander@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In environments where security is prioritized, users may set
> --backlog_wait_time to a high value in order to reduce the likelihood
> that any audit event is lost, even though doing so may result in
> unpredictable performance if the kernel schedules a timeout when the
> backlog limit is exceeded. For these users, the next best thing to
> predictable performance is the ability to quickly detect and react to
> degraded performance. This patch proposes to aid the detection of kernel
> audit subsystem pauses through the following changes:
>
> Add a variable named audit_backlog_warn_time. Enforce the value of this
> variable to be no less than zero, and no more than the value of
> audit_backlog_wait_time.
>
> If audit_backlog_warn_time is greater than zero and if the total time
> spent waiting to enqueue an audit record is greater than or equal to
> audit_backlog_warn_time, then print a warning with the total time
> spent waiting.
>
> An example configuration:
>
>         auditctl --backlog_warn_time 50
>
> An example warning message:
>
>         audit: sleep_time=52 >= audit_backlog_warn_time=50
>
> Tested on Ubuntu 18.04.04 using complementary changes to the audit
> userspace: https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-userspace/pull/131.
>
> Signed-off-by: Max Englander <max.englander@gmail.com>
> ---
>  include/uapi/linux/audit.h |  7 ++++++-
>  kernel/audit.c             | 35 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  2 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

If an admin is prioritizing security, aka don't loose any audit
records, and there is a concern over variable system latency due to an
audit queue backlog, why not simply disable the backlog limit?

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-17 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-16  4:58 [PATCH] audit: optionally print warning after waiting to enqueue record Max Englander
2020-06-17 18:47 ` Paul Moore [this message]
2020-06-17 22:54   ` Max Englander
2020-06-18  1:06     ` Paul Moore
2020-06-18 23:48       ` Max Englander
2020-06-19  0:30         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2020-06-24  0:15           ` Paul Moore
2020-06-25  3:34             ` Max Englander
2020-06-18 13:39     ` Steve Grubb
2020-06-18 13:46       ` Paul Moore
2020-06-18 14:36         ` Steve Grubb
2020-06-18 16:29           ` Paul Moore
2020-06-18 22:57       ` Max Englander

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